Volunteers Needed

> > With all the starvation, malnutrition and general lack of care of
> > children, I can't understand how people can get involved with
> > environmental causes in corrupt countries which are almost certainly
> > doomed to failure, simply because neither the government, the rich
> > people who control the government or the middle class who control
> > everything else, simply don't care.
>
> You forgot about the low class people, who, honestly, don't care
> either.

Low class? Don't know what you mean by that in this context. Taking
care of the environment is showing respect for what you've been given
responsibility over for the time being - but it might be prudent to take
care of starvation first. Hopefully environmental respect can also be
worked into the education curriculum so the next generation thinks twice
before dumping garbage and toxic waste into the ground, water and into
the air. Such a shame to look at a once nice vista and remark, "If
only....."

I can agree about the cost charged by this volunteer group to travel to
Ecuador, seems ridiculously expensive. Also I know for a fact, having
volunteered, all the efforts go to waste when the people who are
supposed to benefit from the volunteer work have no education and hence
they end up not even comprehending how those services can benefit them.
They cannot care about the environment when they don't even know what
it is and what the gringos are dong in their forest. I tell you, a
school I saw being built in S. America 2 years ago, sadly, is now a
"bulo"; so now I go personally to the countries and teach
individuals one person at a time and live in Peru, for example with
about $500.00 of my own money for 6 months, no kidding. Honestly it
takes about 2 months for an individual to learn the alphabet because
there is no exposure to it. The greatest part is I learn the best
things in life are free of charge. The people I teach give me a roof
and feed me. Maybe I am the exception because I am a warrior.
Volunteering and paying some company money up front is like a scam to
me. I learned that in the long run. You really cannot expect people who
are starving and have no shoes to care about the school you bulit for
them or the environment you are protecting when they don't even have
the basics. Yes, the children should come before the environment!
Reforestation is a farse, although I wish it were true. Where does all
the money go?


TT wrote:
> > > With all the starvation, malnutrition and general lack of care of
> > > children, I can't understand how people can get involved with
> > > environmental causes in corrupt countries which are almost certainly
> > > doomed to failure, simply because neither the government, the rich
> > > people who control the government or the middle class who control
> > > everything else, simply don't care.
> >
> > You forgot about the low class people, who, honestly, don't care
> > either.
>
> Low class? Don't know what you mean by that in this context. Taking
> care of the environment is showing respect for what you've been given
> responsibility over for the time being - but it might be prudent to take
> care of starvation first. Hopefully environmental respect can also be
> worked into the education curriculum so the next generation thinks twice
> before dumping garbage and toxic waste into the ground, water and into
> the air. Such a shame to look at a once nice vista and remark, "If
> only....."

Wow - the world needs more of you. And through education comes
environmental respect. The more you know about your world, the more you
appreciate your world. But as long as corrupt governments allow large
companies to come in and rape their land, its a daunting problem. Its
very, very sad. Perhaps international pressure - like an environmental
U.N. might help. You simply can't have low paid overseers who are prone
to corruption because they have no money. Spot checking with severe
POLITICAL (like impeachment for the leaders) repercussions is the only
way. It would be great if priests in the Catholic church could educate
their congregation on these aspects. They will listen to the church
elders. The Bible has many references to preservation of things for
future use which is what the whole environmental movement is trying to
accomplish.

> I can agree about the cost charged by this volunteer group to travel to
> Ecuador, seems ridiculously expensive. Also I know for a fact, having
> volunteered, all the efforts go to waste when the people who are
> supposed to benefit from the volunteer work have no education and hence
> they end up not even comprehending how those services can benefit them.
> They cannot care about the environment when they don't even know what
> it is and what the gringos are dong in their forest. I tell you, a
> school I saw being built in S. America 2 years ago, sadly, is now a
> "bulo"; so now I go personally to the countries and teach
> individuals one person at a time and live in Peru, for example with
> about $500.00 of my own money for 6 months, no kidding. Honestly it
> takes about 2 months for an individual to learn the alphabet because
> there is no exposure to it. The greatest part is I learn the best
> things in life are free of charge. The people I teach give me a roof
> and feed me. Maybe I am the exception because I am a warrior.
> Volunteering and paying some company money up front is like a scam to
> me. I learned that in the long run. You really cannot expect people who
> are starving and have no shoes to care about the school you bulit for
> them or the environment you are protecting when they don't even have
> the basics. Yes, the children should come before the environment!
> Reforestation is a farse, although I wish it were true. Where does all
> the money go?
>
>
> TT wrote:
> > > > With all the starvation, malnutrition and general lack of care of
> > > > children, I can't understand how people can get involved with
> > > > environmental causes in corrupt countries which are almost certainly
> > > > doomed to failure, simply because neither the government, the rich
> > > > people who control the government or the middle class who control
> > > > everything else, simply don't care.
> > >
> > > You forgot about the low class people, who, honestly, don't care
> > > either.
> >
> > Low class? Don't know what you mean by that in this context. Taking
> > care of the environment is showing respect for what you've been given
> > responsibility over for the time being - but it might be prudent to take
> > care of starvation first. Hopefully environmental respect can also be
> > worked into the education curriculum so the next generation thinks twice
> > before dumping garbage and toxic waste into the ground, water and into
> > the air. Such a shame to look at a once nice vista and remark, "If
> > only....."

> > > > With all the starvation, malnutrition and general lack of care of
> > > > children, I can't understand how people can get involved with
> > > > environmental causes in corrupt countries which are almost certainly
> > > > doomed to failure, simply because neither the government, the rich
> > > > people who control the government or the middle class who control
> > > > everything else, simply don't care.
> > >
> > > You forgot about the low class people, who, honestly, don't care
> > > either.
> >
> > Low class? Don't know what you mean by that in this context.
>
> The people that is below the middle class, often known as poor.

Well then show some respect for them. Just call them economically poor.
Because a lot of them are family rich. So you need to make that
distinction. Also a reason (lack of education probably?) for their lack
of caring would be good too.

Let's not start slamming teachers now....


>
> People like you should learn how to read. I see publik ejukashun works
> well.

> > People like you should learn how to read. I see publik ejukashun works
> > well.

> Let's not start slamming teachers now....

You're right. That was said in a totally wrong context. We'd be lost
without public school teachers. They are not appreciated as much as
they should be.