** Skip Aruba **

garciyalater@m wrote:
> while you are at, dont travel to any of the states that have unsolved
> murders where police and officials have done less than devote every bit
> of manpower to solving one case....
>
> I am sure europeans are lining up for aruba, when the americans stop
> going, it sure makes it nice for everyone else.....
>


80% is still 80% of tourism dollars...

Brian K wrote:
>
>
> If it was a Euro - girl or a Latina from South America I doubt sincerely
> that you would be such a crusader. At best it's a quixotic effort. As
> if major investors will even bother to read this Usenet group and stop
> engaging in offshore banking. I'm sure that major cruiselines will join
> in this senseless boycott of yours.
>
> What happened to Natalee can and does happen anywhere young girls go off
> at the wee hours of the morning with strangers. It should also be noted
> that the US Department of State is keeping a low profile and acting as
> an advocate for this missing girl. Aruba is a sovereign nnation; if we
> wish the sovereignty of our own country to be recognized we must do so
> in turn. It should also be noted that Aruba operates on a Napoleonic
> criminal code. That means that one is considered guilty until proven
> innocent. Whereas in the US individuals who may witness a crime or be
> under suspicion are protected by that mantle of innocence until proven
> guilty. In countries like Aruba or Mexico one can be arrested simply
> for questioning. If that individual can prove his/her innocence of any
> wrong doing they in turn can be released. The US news media hasn't
> really done a good job of pointing this out. In an on going
> investigation individuals previously presumed guilty can be released
> while other information is investigated.
> In short, Aruba is no more dangerous or safe than anywhere one might
> vacation. What happened to Natalee is not unique. People on vacation,
> young and old have major lapses in judgment. Vacationers often do on
> vacation what they would never do at home. Crime against travelers
> would greatly diminish if folks would just exercise a little bit of
> common sense while abroad.
>
> Your boycott is quixotic, re-stated for emphasis. It might be far more
> effective for you to encourage US Citizens to petition the Department of
> State, their Senators and members of the House of Representatives. Ask
> that diplomatic efforts be increased to obtain some sort of closure for
> Natalee's family. Just don't write to President "Dub'ya", he'll use it
> as an excuse to invade Aruba!
>

Brian, every thing you have said is correct with the exception or the
omission of the factor that has been objected to by most.
The total cover up, foot dragging, lackadazy investigation methods of
the Aruba officials. As you have heard of "Cold Case Files", this case
started in that category.

--
BILL P.

garciyalater@m wrote:
> if he is so 'innocent' then why does he not talk? What does he have to
> hide?>>>>>>
>
> you are a bright one arent you? If you were being held, all the while
> innocent, what would you say? Would you make something up? Or would
> you just stay quiet? Like it or not, it is hsi rgiht to be quiet, and
> if he were in the US awaiting trial, he would have even less reason to
> talk "anything you say, can and will be used against you".......
>
> what does he have to hide? Nothing at all, what does he have to prove,
> nothing? Aruba will take him to court one day, and the kid isnt
> stupid, why should he help in his own prosecuion.
>
> I, for one, would be quiet as hell and offer no help whatsoever to the
> police in a similar situation, there are likely a thousand people right
> now in tennesee or alabama, who are refusing to coop with the
> authorities....this kid is no different.....
>
** IF he was innocent ** which he is not...

<garciyalater@m> wrote in message
news:1122179882.322641.41310@g43g2000cwa. ...
> you miss the point....take away your 80%, the prices will go down, the
> rest of the world will thank us for providing them with a lower cost,
> less amercinized holiday......
>
> I dont think anyone with half a brain thinks that this incident makes
> aruba anny less safe, chick probably OD'ed on E or something, the kid
> freaked out and she is in the ocean....isolate incident, on an extremly
> safe island, if we had a city of 80;000 with such a track record, the
> mayor would serve unopposed forever.....
>
> I feel extremeley sorry for her family, etc, but the truth is, much of
> the world and many in the USA have more pressing concerns then what
> happened to a chick that ignored her friends warning and took off with
> a stranger, buddy system isnt just for swimming, it goes for bars
> too.......
>

So you are saying that when a small island country that depends heavily on
Americans for their livelihood puts up barriers and offers little to no
assistance in finding a missing teen that was most likely murdered by one of
it's citizens should then be rewarded by a status quo on tourism?

I won't go.

r

<garciyalater@m> wrote in message
news:1122486294.780241.79670@g14g2000cwa. ...
> if he is so 'innocent' then why does he not talk? What does he have to
> hide?>>>>>>
>
> you are a bright one arent you? If you were being held, all the while
> innocent, what would you say? Would you make something up? Or would
> you just stay quiet? Like it or not, it is hsi rgiht to be quiet, and
> if he were in the US awaiting trial, he would have even less reason to
> talk "anything you say, can and will be used against you".......

You haven't been watching this case. He has not been quiet. So far, he has
told something like 15 different versions of what happened that night.


>
> what does he have to hide? Nothing at all, what does he have to prove,
> nothing? Aruba will take him to court one day, and the kid isnt
> stupid, why should he help in his own prosecuion.
>
> I, for one, would be quiet as hell and offer no help whatsoever to the
> police in a similar situation, there are likely a thousand people right
> now in tennesee or alabama, who are refusing to coop with the
> authorities....this kid is no different.....
>

And the Aruban authorities are stupid. They ought to know that someone that
is innocent of a crime has no need to lie 15 different ways.

He is guilty, as are the Kalpoe's. The problem now is proving it.

r