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Old 6th July 2005, 04:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The sign was specifically targeted at Beth Twitty, not the American
tourists.

 
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Old 9th July 2005, 04:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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"T. C. Conde" <tcconde@> schreef

> OK, so the Aruban people are upset about their treatment by the U.S.
> media. How much more hint do we need people? There was even a sign telling
> us that if we didn't like the Dutch justice system, GO HOME.


Well Dutch justice system. Hey Tim, please do not mix the Netherlands with
Aruba. The Dutch justice system is quite ok for European standards, just not
applicable in the often corrupt, us know us, islands in the Caribbean. I
could also tell you a few political and social stories that would tell you
the Dutch are not too happy still having these 6 little Islands as part of
the United Kingdom of the Netherlands. For example we are not to happy with
the immigrants that come from it. The latter are often, low educated,
unemployed, and for a more then equal part involved in small crime.
Furthermore the 6 islands all already for decades in financial trouble,
which is then resolved by fundings from the Netherlands, and indirectly the
common Dutchman as taxpayer. Or to say it in plain American English, they
are a pain in the you know what.


 
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Old 24th July 2005, 12:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
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T. C. Conde wrote:

> OK, so the Aruban people are upset about their treatment by the U.S. media.
> How much more hint do we need people? There was even a sign telling us that
> if we didn't like the Dutch justice system, GO HOME. Well, OK, that sounds
> like a pretty good idea to me. If they want to make their money from the
> wide variety of exports and industry on the island, that suits me. God knows
> that without all those pain-in-the- tourists clogging up the streets and
> restaurants, they will have a much easier time of things there.
>
> Tim
>
>

It appears as though this thread has not covered the primary concern of
many people with thoughts of travel to Aruba. I think most people should
know that Americans can be subjected to crimes as tourists, just like
any other countrymen can.
What appears to have occurred is that not only the crime was subjected
to a cover up, but the suspected guilty individuals were shielded by
high level officials in Aruba. As a matter of fact those that were
suspected were family members or friends of the upper crust of the
government.
Virtually crime free, Aruba!, is this true. Based on the apparent cover
up attempts in this case, I highly doubt that Aruba,s crime rate is any
different than the rest of the islands in the area. And a good
possibility it could be much higher, considering that the primary
function in an investigation as has been observer is to wash and delay
the evidence and investigation.
We will no longer be scheduling visits to Aruba.


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Old 24th July 2005, 04:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't recall seeing any evidence that a crime has been committed. We
know a person is missing and we know her family has characterized
certain persons as criminals. The Aruban government has said there is
no evidence to hold them. We also know that in the past people have
gotten drunk, taken a swim, and drowned. Is that, or any explanation
other than a criminal conspiracy not possible?

 
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Old 24th July 2005, 05:54 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Greg Johnson wrote:
> I don't recall seeing any evidence that a crime has been committed. We
> know a person is missing and we know her family has characterized
> certain persons as criminals. The Aruban government has said there is
> no evidence to hold them. We also know that in the past people have
> gotten drunk, taken a swim, and drowned. Is that, or any explanation
> other than a criminal conspiracy not possible?
>

the problem is the police. They are approaching thi case with the effort
to save their precious touist economy at the cost of a girls life
 
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Old 5th August 2005, 11:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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"William Boyd" <williamboyd@direcway.com> wrote in message
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> T. C. Conde wrote:
>
>> OK, so the Aruban people are upset about their treatment by the U.S.
>> media. How much more hint do we need people? There was even a sign
>> telling us that if we didn't like the Dutch justice system, GO HOME.
>> Well, OK, that sounds like a pretty good idea to me. If they want to make
>> their money from the wide variety of exports and industry on the island,
>> that suits me. God knows that without all those pain-in-the- tourists
>> clogging up the streets and restaurants, they will have a much easier
>> time of things there.
>>
>> Tim

> It appears as though this thread has not covered the primary concern of
> many people with thoughts of travel to Aruba. I think most people should
> know that Americans can be subjected to crimes as tourists, just like any
> other countrymen can.
> What appears to have occurred is that not only the crime was subjected to
> a cover up, but the suspected guilty individuals were shielded by high
> level officials in Aruba. As a matter of fact those that were suspected
> were family members or friends of the upper crust of the government.
> Virtually crime free, Aruba!, is this true. Based on the apparent cover up
> attempts in this case, I highly doubt that Aruba,s crime rate is any
> different than the rest of the islands in the area. And a good possibility
> it could be much higher, considering that the primary function in an
> investigation as has been observer is to wash and delay the evidence and
> investigation.
> We will no longer be scheduling visits to Aruba.
>
>
> --
> BILL P.
>

Bill, I have personal experience in this matter. Bonaire, one of the sister
islands of Aruba has a very high crime rate, to which I and my scuba group
were subjected to while on the island. Nothing gets done about it. Yet if
you ask the Bonaire authorities what their crime rate is, they will tell you
it is almost non-existent.

Aruba is no different.

r


 
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Old 5th August 2005, 11:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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<garciyalater@m> wrote in message
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> the problem is the police. They are approaching thi case with the
> effort
> to save their precious touist economy at the cost of a girls
> life>>>>>>>
>
> perhaps you should contract yourself out to the fla govt and teach them
> how to keep tabs on thier offenders, as they pose a far greater
> threat than to the world than the perpetrators of an isolated
> event.....
>
> Chuck
>


How do you know it's an isolated event?

There is a huge difference between what the US is trying to do with
offenders and what the Aruban authorities are doing to torture some American
parents.

r


 
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Old 6th August 2005, 04:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
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In article <GfWIe.74022$gL1.34204@tornado.texas.>, rg
<jobbahut@m> writes
>
>"William Boyd" <williamboyd@direcway.com> wrote in message
>news:3kgiqiFu9g5tU1@...
>> T. C. Conde wrote:
>>
>>> OK, so the Aruban people are upset about their treatment by the U.S.
>>> media. How much more hint do we need people? There was even a sign
>>> telling us that if we didn't like the Dutch justice system, GO HOME.
>>> Well, OK, that sounds like a pretty good idea to me. If they want to make
>>> their money from the wide variety of exports and industry on the island,
>>> that suits me. God knows that without all those pain-in-the- tourists
>>> clogging up the streets and restaurants, they will have a much easier
>>> time of things there.
>>>
>>> Tim

>> It appears as though this thread has not covered the primary concern of
>> many people with thoughts of travel to Aruba. I think most people should
>> know that Americans can be subjected to crimes as tourists, just like any
>> other countrymen can.
>> What appears to have occurred is that not only the crime was subjected to
>> a cover up, but the suspected guilty individuals were shielded by high
>> level officials in Aruba. As a matter of fact those that were suspected
>> were family members or friends of the upper crust of the government.
>> Virtually crime free, Aruba!, is this true. Based on the apparent cover up
>> attempts in this case, I highly doubt that Aruba,s crime rate is any
>> different than the rest of the islands in the area. And a good possibility
>> it could be much higher, considering that the primary function in an
>> investigation as has been observer is to wash and delay the evidence and
>> investigation.
>> We will no longer be scheduling visits to Aruba.
>>
>>
>> --
>> BILL P.
>>

>Bill, I have personal experience in this matter. Bonaire, one of the sister
>islands of Aruba has a very high crime rate, to which I and my scuba group
>were subjected to while on the island. Nothing gets done about it. Yet if
>you ask the Bonaire authorities what their crime rate is, they will tell you
>it is almost non-existent.
>
>Aruba is no different.
>
>r
>

Bollocks!!! From this and all your other flood of postings I smell
troll. Proof please.
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Dorset/UK

 
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"rg" <jobbahut@m> wrote in message
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> It's been a few years since I have been back, but I have friends here that
> still go at least twice a year. If I remember correctly, they said the
> Sand Dollar and Green Parrot restaurant are no longer there.


Sand Dollar is there, but Green Parrot, along with the old deck and dock is
gone, never to be rebuilt. The have another restaurant on the "road side" of
the property.


 
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Old 19th February 2006, 07:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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More people die from crime in LA in a 12 hour period than in a whole year in
Aruba., i guess in won't be visiting the uS of a anymore.





"William Boyd" <williamboyd@direcway.com> wrote in message
news:3kgiqiFu9g5tU1@...
> T. C. Conde wrote:
>
> > OK, so the Aruban people are upset about their treatment by the U.S.

media.
> > How much more hint do we need people? There was even a sign telling us

that
> > if we didn't like the Dutch justice system, GO HOME. Well, OK, that

sounds
> > like a pretty good idea to me. If they want to make their money from the
> > wide variety of exports and industry on the island, that suits me. God

knows
> > that without all those pain-in-the- tourists clogging up the streets

and
> > restaurants, they will have a much easier time of things there.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >

> It appears as though this thread has not covered the primary concern of
> many people with thoughts of travel to Aruba. I think most people should
> know that Americans can be subjected to crimes as tourists, just like
> any other countrymen can.
> What appears to have occurred is that not only the crime was subjected
> to a cover up, but the suspected guilty individuals were shielded by
> high level officials in Aruba. As a matter of fact those that were
> suspected were family members or friends of the upper crust of the
> government.
> Virtually crime free, Aruba!, is this true. Based on the apparent cover
> up attempts in this case, I highly doubt that Aruba,s crime rate is any
> different than the rest of the islands in the area. And a good
> possibility it could be much higher, considering that the primary
> function in an investigation as has been observer is to wash and delay
> the evidence and investigation.
> We will no longer be scheduling visits to Aruba.
>
>
> --
> BILL P.
>



 
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