REAL National ID Card ACT PASSES

In news:6vche.1368$ce6.1265@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m "Jean O'Boyle"
<j.oboyle@removefudged.> wrote:

> But for heavens sake, STOP the paranoia!!

Gosh, you're right! It can't happen here!

Every day, in every way, things are getting better and better.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

> Additionally we also need to take the pocketpc concept further.
> Everyone should be required to carry their digital records with them
> on a local database. An interface to that database would be
> provided via bluetooth. Others in your immediate proximity would
> be allowed to query those devices.

No, it can be much more efficient. All visitors to the USA will be
implanted with a tracking device similar to the ones implanted in
dogs to keep track of them. All citizens of the USA will be
implanted with the same device at birth, and this will prevent child
kidnappings. All current citizens will be required to present them-
selves to be implanted. After a short grace period, anyone without
the device will be arrested and implanted. This will be easy to
implement, as we can have detectors installed in shopping malls
and other areas where people congregate. Illegal aliens will not
be excused, and will be implanted upon discovery and then deported.
Instead of requiring people to carry their digital records with them,
we need to implement a single federal database with all known data.
Then we can keep track of all people within the USA. We will
mandate that cremation be the only option after death to ensure that
tracking devices never get into the hands of anyone other than the
government.


Pete
1984 is so passé

In article <rLohe.555$Lc1.33@newsread3.news.pas. >, BruceB
<dontwriteme@tshirts.nu> wrote:

> And this has exactly WHAT to do with cruising??
>
> Looking at the places you cross-posted to (usually a rude and bad idea-in
> this case, both), it probably should be discussed in privacy, which
> looks like a good place for nutjobs and conspiracy-theorists to hang out.

I don't agree with you, Jean or on this topic. And I think it is
relevant to cruising since you may have to use any national ID card to
board an airplane which we do often when on the way to a cruise. Also
while crossposting could be bad, if the topic is relevant to more than
one group as long as it is not overdone there is nothing wrong with it
in principle.

The Real ID is a step towards a instituting a national ID card. With
such a card the government could possibly track the movement and
history of every person. They could possibly use that information to
victimize or blacklist anyone who fell out of favor with the
government. It is not a conspiracy or paranoia but a fact that these
were first instituted in countries that used them for that very
purpose; Stalinist Soviet Union, China ; fascist Germany, Spain, the
old military government in Greece, etc. A major use by those
dictatorial regimes was to restrict freedom of travel. A national ID is
not something we should do in the USA. It will have little effect on
future terrorism. It will have effect on our civil rights.

--
Charles

Thus spake nobody <nobody@nobody.org> :

>Jean O'Boyle wrote:
>> Sheeesh! What paranoia!! The sky is falling!
>> No, you should not worry if you have lived a decent law abiding life...
>
>You'll think differently when your police state finds out that you were
>in the same hotel as some terrorist group meeting, and your neighbours
>will have callen in some suspicious behaviour at your house, and the FBI
>will put 2+2 together and decide you must be a terrosist and arrested
>under patriot act (which means you have none of the legal protections
>your constitution is supposed to garantee al PEOPLE in the USA). When
>you have a regime which needs to show results for its tactics, they will
>find all sorts of terrorists everywhere, just like they are finding
>plenty of terrorists on flights (such as the one recent Air France family).

<snip, read the original>

bah, bah, we're all sheeple here.

One of these days I'm going to pay cash for a one way plane ticket
with no luggage.

--
dillon

Women should be obscene and not absurd.

hypcrite is a very popular word with cc. She/he must look in the mirror
everytime she/he utters it.

(* _ *)

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

The new American motto. Sound familiar?
Your country is beginning to really scare the rest of the world.

"Chrissy Cruiser" <doublebreasted@mail.com> wrote in message
news:y76xfl7ot325.1dls1iduddw5k$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On 15 May 2005 17:51:48 -0700, CruiseJournals.com wrote:
> > War is Peace
> > Freedom is Slavery
> > Ignorance is Strength
> > The new American motto. Sound familiar?
> > Your country is beginning to really scare the rest of the world.
> Jef, you better be frightened to death by the US these days. We are
> bordering on some of the most insane policies of all times and we have a
> head full of steam and an ego the size of this planet.

The Jews in Germany circa 1933 said it couldn't happen there. Just
prior to that in Central and Eastern Europe, European Jewish civilization
was at its apogee.
Now, there aren't even many graveyards left.