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Old 30th March 2005, 07:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I wonder if anyone could advise me as to where we could go to learn about
how the old sailors used sextons and compass and charts to navigate. It
would be a wonderful lecture to have on cruise ships and we have often
mentioned it on the comment cards that are passed out at the end of a
cruise.

Is there a cruise ship that makes such information available to the
passengers? Thanks in advance for any and all responses. Sandy



 
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Old 30th March 2005, 08:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"Road Runner" <Me@> wrote:

>I wonder if anyone could advise me as to where we could go to learn about
>how the old sailors used sextons and compass and charts to navigate. It
>would be a wonderful lecture to have on cruise ships and we have often
>mentioned it on the comment cards that are passed out at the end of a
>cruise.
>
>Is there a cruise ship that makes such information available to the
>passengers? Thanks in advance for any and all responses. Sandy
>

I doubt very much that cruise ships use sextants anymore. They use a
GPS, sometimes when they should not. This is from rec.boats.cruising

>>>Yeah, the QEII (I think) ran aground about 20 years ago just off the
>>>Elizabeth Islands on Cape Cod and in one of the most heavily traveled
>>>areas of New England. The chart turned out to be wrong.

>>
>> Is that the case? I heard about something similar but not a case of a
>> chart being wrong. A cruise liner enroute to Boston was under autopilot
>> but the gps lost lock for an extended period of time. During that period
>> the course was continued with the unit doing its own dead reckoning. By
>> the time it regained lock it was well off course and the new course to
>> the next waypoint took it over some rocks. None of the crew had noticed
>> the system had lost lock and all were trusting that the "gps referenced
>> autopilot" was safely steering the ship waypoint to waypoint. They also
>> did not bother to look and see that their course was now taking them
>> over the rocks.
>>

>I believe in the case of the QE2, the rock was charted but the depth was
>wrong, plus they didn't allow for squat.


I understand this is the best book on the subject.

1. Mary Blewitt, Celestial Navigation for Yachtsmen, Revised edition
(1995).
ISBN 0-07-005928-4, Mc-Graw - Hill - Excellent text

grandma Rosalie
 
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Old 31st March 2005, 08:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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In article <BzH2e.16814$Pc.16415@tornado.tampabay.>, "
Road Runner" <Me@> writes:

>I wonder if anyone could advise me as to where we could go to learn about
>how the old sailors used sextons and compass and charts to navigate. ...


Most large ships - and even small boats! - navigate today using GPS.
However most large ships still carry sextants, compasses and charts,
and the Captain and officers have at least the minimal skill to use
them -- in case the GPS electronics fail.

Some years ago I was on a Windjammer Barefoot cruise -- not what most
people think about as a "curise ship". The first mate gave a lecture
and demonstration of using a sextant. Amazing the detail required.
Everything from the stage of the tide to the height of the deck above
water level went into the calculation.

And, oh yes, you need an accurate clock in addition to sextant and compass!

--
Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale FL USA
(hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)
All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.

 
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