Visa Requirements for Aguilla

Hi,

I am a permanent resident in United States. Does anyone know for sure if I
need a visa to go to Anguilla or St. Martin for vacation? If so, where
should I apply for? I am having really hard time finding information on
line, most information I found is geared towards US citizens.

Thank you,
Sandra

"Aleksandra Faust" <afaust@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I am a permanent resident in United States. Does anyone know for sure if I
> need a visa to go to Anguilla or St. Martin for vacation? If so, where
> should I apply for? I am having really hard time finding information on
> line, most information I found is geared towards US citizens.

We can't answer until we know what country issued your passport.

Thank you everyone for responses.

I am Yugoslav citizen, and I confirmed today with Dutch consulate that my
permanent residence would wave the need for visa for visiting St. Maarten.
That is not the case for Anguilla and St. Martin, though.

So, we booked our travel and we are leaving in 10 days for St. Maarten. The
short notice of vacation time was the reason that visa requirements were a
deciding factor in choosing an island. :)

Now, there is a silly situation. I don't need visa for St. Maarten, but do
need one for St. Martin. :) Is there really a border between the two, or do
people move freely across the island?


"SP Cook" <pacefsc@msn.com> wrote in message
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> "Aleksandra Faust" <afaust@uiuc.edu> wrote in message \\
>
> >
> > I am a permanent resident in United States. Does anyone know for sure if
I
> > need a visa to go to Anguilla or St. Martin for vacation? If so, where
> > should I apply for? I am having really hard time finding information on
> > line, most information I found is geared towards US citizens.
> >
> Your status as a permanent resident of the US is not relevant at all.
>
> You need to contact the British (Anguilla), French (St. Martin) or
> Dutch (Sint Maartin) embassies and find their requirements for
> whatever country you are a citizen of. Make sure they understand you
> are asking about their Carribbean posessions, not the mainland. If
> you need a visa, those embassies are where you would apply, or a
> consolate.
>
> And if you are a EU citizen, remember THAT IS NOT RELEVANT to get you
> a visa waiver at all (unless you are French, Dutch or British). The
> EU rules about freedom of border movements do not apply to overseas
> posessions of EU countries.

"Aleksandra Faust" <afaust@uiuc.edu> wrote in message \

> I am Yugoslav citizen, and I confirmed today with Dutch consulate that my
> permanent residence would wave the need for visa for visiting St. Maarten.
> That is not the case for Anguilla and St. Martin, though.
>
>
There is no border control between Sint Maarten and St. Martin. Just
a sign on the road like between two US states. (The French sign is
in, well, French, but the Dutch sign is not in Dutch, but rather
English, which is what everybody really speaks there anyway.)

The international airport is on the Dutch side and as long as you
enter there you can go wherever you want on the island w/o difficulty.
Its not wise to even carry your passport and documentation around
with you once you clear Dutch Immigration, like you would in Europe.
Just lock it in the hotel safe and carry your regular driver's lisense
and such.

The main seaport is on the French side, however, where you would catch
a boat to nearby islands, which include other Dutch, French, British,
and US islands. As long as you just stay on the one island and don't
take any side trips out to neighbor islands, you will be just fine.

SP Cook

"R J Carpenter" <rcarpen@erols.com> wrote in message
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> St Martin is a part of France, almost in the same way as Hawaii is part of
> the USA.

A better analogy would be that St. Martin is part of France as Guam is part
of the USA. Hawai'i is a state; St. Martin is a French Overseas Territory.

> Anguilla is a British ___colony___, quite a different situation. It does
> not send members to the British Parliament. It is not part of "Europe".

It's still subject to oversight from the British Foreign Office.

"Da Parrot-chick" <just@sk.me> wrote in message
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> "R J Carpenter" <rcarpen@erols.com> wrote in message
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>
> > St Martin is a part of France, almost in the same way as Hawaii is part
of
> > the USA.
>
> A better analogy would be that St. Martin is part of France as Guam is
part
> of the USA. Hawai'i is a state; St. Martin is a French Overseas
Territory.

NO! Guadeloupe [St Martin] is an Overseas Department, and a Region of
France. French Departments send voting deputies to the Chambre of Deputies.
Guadeloupe sends 4. There are about 97 Departments in Metropolitan
(European) France. They are combined ito a number of Regions, slightly on
the pattern of the US States, but with much less authority.

Martinique and Guadeloupe are Overseas Departments, they are also Regions.
IIRC, they are fully equal to the Metropolitan Departments, although they
get some special favors.

Guam has no voting represntation in the US Congress. Its status in no way
resembles that of a US State or French Department.

There are still some French overseas territories, mostly small far-off
islands.

> > Anguilla is a British ___colony___, quite a different situation. It
does
> > not send members to the British Parliament. It is not part of "Europe".
>
> It's still subject to oversight from the British Foreign Office.

Which tends to indicate that it isn't an integral part of Britain. Though I
guess it would be the Commonwealth Office, not Foreign Office. I now see
that the CIA says it's a "dependant territory, and doesn't use the term
"colony".

"R J Carpenter" <rcarpen@erols.com> wrote in message
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> "Da Parrot-chick" <just@sk.me> wrote in message
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> >
> > "R J Carpenter" <rcarpen@erols.com> wrote in message
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>
> > > Guam has no voting represntation in the US Congress. Its status in no
> way
> > > resembles that of a US State or French Department.
> >
> > Also true. A better analogy [for Gaudeloupe] then would be Puerto Rico.
>
> Not quite, since Puerto Rico does _not_ have voting representation in the
US
> Congress. The real analaogy for Guadeloupe and Martinique is Hawaii (or
> Alaska). Residents of Guadeloupe have full representation in the French
> legislature, while the residents of Washington, DC, do not have voting
> representation in the US Congress.

I'm having a heckuva time with this! Lemme try again: Residents of the
Solomon Islands are American citizens. I'll leave it at that :)

> > > > > Anguilla is a British ___colony___, quite a different situation.
It
> > > > > does send members to the British Parliament. It is not part of
> > > > > "Europe".
> > > >
> > > > It's still subject to oversight from the British Foreign Office.
> > >
> > > Which tends to indicate that it isn't an integral part of Britain.
> Though
> > > I guess it would be the Commonwealth Office, not Foreign Office. I
now
> see
> > > that the CIA says it's a "dependant territory, and doesn't use the
term
> > > "colony".
> >
> > I'd have to look up the specific term; if Overseas Territory isn't right
> > then I've been wrong. I do know that the locals are British citizens
and
> > the local government answers to London.
>
> Are you really sure about the British citizenship? Britain has become
more
> restrictive about letting people from the colonies have British passports
or
> move to Britain without formalities. You may be right however.

I'm batting about .130 on this topic <g> but on this I'm sure: Anguillian
locals (Belongers) are British citizens with British passports.

"Allodoxaphobia" <bit-bucket@config.com> wrote in message
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>
> The problem is *not* getting in to Sint Marteen, or St Martin, or
> Anguilla. The problem may well lie in getting *back into* the U.S.A.
> The Dept Of Homeland Hysteria makes it a Whole New BallGame.

An organization I'm a member of is having its annual meeting in Canada.
Travel agents are strongly suggesting that US citizens attending the meeting
get passports TO MAKE REENTERING THE USA EASIER!! That's an $85 dollar item
these days, plus $10 for a photo. I've had a passport for lots of years, so
it isn't an extra cost for me.

"R J Carpenter" <rcarpen@erols.com> wrote in message
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> "Allodoxaphobia" <bit-bucket@config.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > The problem is *not* getting in to Sint Marteen, or St Martin, or
> > Anguilla. The problem may well lie in getting *back into* the U.S.A.
> > The Dept Of Homeland Hysteria makes it a Whole New BallGame.
>
> An organization I'm a member of is having its annual meeting in Canada.
> Travel agents are strongly suggesting that US citizens attending the
meeting
> get passports TO MAKE REENTERING THE USA EASIER!! That's an $85 dollar
item
> these days, plus $10 for a photo. I've had a passport for lots of years,
so
> it isn't an extra cost for me.

I'm surprised that more people don't just get passports. With a valid
passport, there's never a question. Anytime I cross an international border
I bring my passport. 27 years, no delays.