Giant changes tack

On Jun 7, 10:16 am, "Vintage" <dontemai...@************> wrote:

> LOL says it all really
>


[chomp]


Did you followup to the wrong message, or did some NNTP server have a
spasm?

dewatford@********** wrote:

> Now they have downgraded the components on them all.

When did they get plastic seat posts?
Met a guy in Mungo National Park that had an interesting 10km ride when
his snapped.

On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:52:59 -0700, Bleve wrote:

> The OCR3's going to be around $700 or so?

The new OCR2 looks like being the $995 old OCR3 equivelent.
The new OCR3 must be somewhere between $700-800.

I don't know much about the 2200 but the flat bar Deore/Deore LXs 27s
around there are probably better value for that sort of riding, and would
be easier to sell to new cyclists. The margin between those and a similar
componented MTB has been dropping.

I guess the point is that instead introducing the 2200 as an OCR4 they have
ditched the old OCR2 in effect. The fact that you could pick them up at
$1200-1300 at the end of the year means they mustn't have been selling
fast. The clipless pedals with a triple ring was a bit of an odd
combination. There are two 2006s chained up around my work, both have been
fitted out as 20 speeds (one with an Ultegra the other with a Dura-ace
drive chain).

dewatf.

On Jun 6, 3:54 pm, dewatf...@********** wrote:
> Giant Australia appears to be in the process of upgrading their
> website for the 2008 line.

On a similar vein, Trek's new '08 Madones are compact frames with
partial long seatposts.
Yuk.

Bleve Wrote:
>
> On a similar vein, Trek's new '08 Madones are compact frames with
> partial long seatposts.
> Yuk.

How about their new 90mm BB? Out with the standards, in with the
profits!


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gplama

On Jun 10, 7:34 pm, gplama <gplama.2ry...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> Bleve Wrote:
>
>
>
> > On a similar vein, Trek's new '08 Madones are compact frames with
> > partial long seatposts.
> > Yuk.
>
> How about their new 90mm BB? Out with the standards, in with the
> profits!

and the 1.5 lower steerer tube. If we get one in, I'll testride it
and see if I can tell any difference. My 'old' madone is solid as a
rock ... I doubt it makes much difference except to the
uberweightweenies.

On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 13:57:52 +1000, DJ wrote:

> Maybe that they have found that the people who buy the lower priced model
> are not in it for the racing aspect of cycling but for general fitness or
> commuting so have no real concerns to the extra weight that steel forks
> have, therefore making them more affordable for everyone...just an
> assumption...not gospel!!

The OCRs are targeted at people wanting to go abit faster or further than
on a MTB or flat bar but not to race. If you want to race you get a TCR.

As to how Giant are going to go selling a $700-800 2200 bike, Cell have an
$800 2200 bike that they sell for $450. Though sell seems to optimistic
since they never have any in stock and it is proably largely a marketing
device. I guess it will come down to how much the Giant brand is worth.

dewatf.

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:31:22 GMT, dewatf <dewatf@foomail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 13:57:52 +1000, DJ wrote:

>The OCRs are targeted at people wanting to go abit faster or further than
>on a MTB or flat bar but not to race. If you want to race you get a TCR.

OCRs were a fine entry level race bike, less so now they've gone
compact.