Budweiser Ale?

[John S.]

On Sep 4, 7:00*pm, Peter Lawrence <hummb...@********> wrote:
> **** Adams wrote:
> > Jeff Louella *<jeffloue...@**********> wrote:
>
> > What self-respecting ale drinker would want to be seen
> > drinking a Bud product. *Maybe it will be a price market
> > where Bud Ale sells for $1.50 a pint on tap. *I might
> > have one - but not in the presence of people I know.
>
> What self-respecting ale drinker would care what's on the label if the
> ale tasted good?
>
> Of course wannabe "status seeking" beer snobs would care, but who cares
> about them?
>
> > As an investment, buy a six pack of bottles and save it.
> > It could be the next "Billy Beer".
>
> You might then want to save a six-pack of Budweiser Select for
> posterity. Anheuser-Busch seems to be phasing it out.
>
> - Peter

What I find interesting about "**** Adams" is that he usually has a
strong opinion about a beer that he has never tasted. It's best to
ignore most of his stuff. Bill Becker on the other hand has
apparently tasted the Bud Ale and gives it a fairly positive review.
I keep looking for it to appear locally.

[Joel]

John S. <hjsjms@cs.com> wrote:
>What I find interesting about "**** Adams" is that he usually has a
>strong opinion about a beer that he has never tasted. It's best to
>ignore most of his stuff.

What I find about "John S." is that he usually has strong opinions
about people he has never met, and is a self-apointed Defender of The
Common Man (ignoring for a moment that the Common Man neither needs
nor wants defending, and that it's condescending to assume The Common
Man needs defending in the first place).

I've had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Adams. He's an interesting
guy with a lifetime of experience to back up his opinions, and he's
never shy about expressing himself. I don't agree with all his
opinions, but would never be so impolite as to try to trivialize
those opinions. Only the terminally insecure would do so.

[Frog King]

The real question is..why would anyone try a Bud ale when there are so
many better ones....Bud is not interested in good beer just the bottom
line....

[John S.]

On Sep 5, 10:37*am, plutc...@see.headers (Joel) wrote:
> John S. <hjs...@cs.com> wrote:
> >What I find interesting about "**** Adams" is that he usually has a
> >strong opinion about a beer that he has never tasted. *It's best to
> >ignore most of his stuff.
>
> * *What I find about "John S." is that he usually has strong opinions
> about people he has never met, and is a self-apointed Defender of The
> Common Man (ignoring for a moment that the Common Man neither needs
> nor wants defending, and that it's condescending to assume The Common
> Man needs defending in the first place).
>
> * *I've had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Adams. He's an interesting
> guy with a lifetime of experience to back up his opinions, and he's
> never shy about expressing himself. *I don't agree with all his
> opinions, but would never be so impolite as to try to trivialize
> those opinions. Only the terminally insecure would do so.
> --
>
> Joel Plutchak * * * * * * * *"Beer doesn't stain, if it's a light pilsner."
> $LASTNAME at VERYWARMmail.com * * *- Sheldon Miller

Needless to say he shows the depth of his knowlege about beer in
general and Bud Ale in particular with statements like this: "What
self-respecting ale drinker would want to be seen drinking a Bud
product". It is a fine example of the narrowminded mentality of the
beer snobs on this forum.

[Steve Jackson]

On Sep 5, 8:11*am, laf...@********** (Frog King) wrote:

> The real question is..why would anyone try a Bud ale when there are so
> many better ones.

Why try any new beer? There are already beers I like out there.

Also, if you're not going to bother to try it, how can you know that
there are better beers out there?

I'll try it at some point out of curiosity, and I'll judge it based on
the contents of the package, not the label. I couldn't care less who a
beer comes from; if it's good and enjoyable, I'm going to enjoy it. If
it's weak and uninteresting, I won't. Pretty simple.

> ....Bud is not interested in good beer just the bottom
> line....

Whereas craft brewers are in business out of charity.

Find me any brewer who isn't concerned with the bottom line and I'll
show you one who's either got an unlimited trust fund to bankroll
things with or who's going out of business very soon.

I don't fault anyone for making money. If they make a product I don't
like, they won't get my money. Their choice, and mine. If they can
sell it to enough other people who don't agree with me, good for them.
As long as I've got other people who are giving me what I want, what
some other company does is irrelevant.

[Joel]

Steve Jackson <stvjackson@**********> wrote:
>I'll try it at some point out of curiosity, and I'll judge it based on
>the contents of the package, not the label.

Me, too.

>I couldn't care less who a beer comes from...

I'm not quite with you there. What a company stands for,
and the things they may do to stay in business and/or squelch
competition certainly will impact how I feel about that company
and whether I want to support them by buying their product,
regardless of how good it is.

[Steve Jackson]

On Sep 8, 7:02*am, plutc...@see.headers (Joel) wrote:

> * *I'm not quite with you there. What a company stands for,
> and the things they may do to stay in business and/or squelch
> competition certainly will impact how I feel about that company
> and whether I want to support them by buying their product,
> regardless of how good it is.

I get that, and I certainly have my lines. I refuse to shop at
Walmart, for example, for multiple reasons, one of which is how I feel
about how they conduct business.

But I guess I don't get worked up enough by A-B to decide not to
patronize them were they to come out with a product I felt worth
buying. Yeah, they do some things I don't like. I can't think of many
companies I buy from who don't do some things I don't like.

[yod-yog+ais]

On 9/8/2008 7:51 PM Steve Jackson ignored two million years of human
evolution to write:

> But I guess I don't get worked up enough by A-B to decide not to
> patronize them were they to come out with a product I felt worth
> buying. Yeah, they do some things I don't like. I can't think of many
> companies I buy from who don't do some things I don't like.

Whatever A-B has done of late hasn't amounted to enough to keep them
from getting swallowed up by an even more aggressive (and bigger)
entity. It turned out they couldn't be top dog forever.

The whole "100% Share of Mind" thing has pretty much gone by the
wayside, too. The notion that the distributor network should
concentrate only on A-B's line has pretty much been turned on its
head in the wake of decreasing profitability and slow growth, and
even A-B itself admitted that when it got in bed with InBev in the
first place.

I'm not going to make much of an effort to search out the new line
of A-B specialty beers, simply because I'm surrounded by far too
many excellent alternatives to make the effort worthwhile. I'm
more prone to support local brewers who I know and like, than give
money to a global American-Belgian-Brazilian beer-making combine,
and that holds true even for beers I like from other places.