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Old 15th July 2008, 07:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
David Bennetts
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"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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>I have finally received a reply on when the change in passenger containment
>policy (announced by the transport minister on 29th August 2006), would be
>implemented.
>
> RailCorp have advised that "Testing of the Internal Emergency Door Release
> systems is expected to commence shortly."
>
> That makes it pretty much two years from decision to testing. This seems
> slow progress by any measure. Are RailCorp dragging their feet?
>
> Sylvia.


Hi Sylvia

Where did the reply come from?

Regards

David Bennetts


 
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Old 15th July 2008, 09:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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> David Bennetts wrote:
>> "Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
>> news:487d39c4$0$17505$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>> I have finally received a reply on when the change in passenger
>>> containment policy (announced by the transport minister on 29th August
>>> 2006), would be implemented.
>>>
>>> RailCorp have advised that "Testing of the Internal Emergency Door
>>> Release systems is expected to commence shortly."
>>>
>>> That makes it pretty much two years from decision to testing. This seems
>>> slow progress by any measure. Are RailCorp dragging their feet?
>>>
>>> Sylvia.

>>
>> Hi Sylvia
>>
>> Where did the reply come from?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> David Bennetts

>
> Railcorp. Signed by Rob Mason, Acting Chief Executive Officer, although my
> letter asking about the matter was sent to the Minister.
>
> Sylvia.


Thanks

He's no longer an actor. Now he's CEO.

Regards

David Bennetts


 
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Old 17th July 2008, 04:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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"David Johnson" <usenet@trainman.id.au> wrote in message
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> Matthew Geier wrote:
>
>
>> Got to be nearly 20 years since I complained about being stuck in a
>> carriage that suffered an electrical fire thus disabling the door control
>> circuits. (The emergency releases had already been disabled by that
>> time). I got an expert fob off by the Bankstown line managers office at
>> the time. (I was working in Bankstown at the time, I went to the office
>> in person).

>
> The doors between carriages have a dump valve that releases the air in
> case of electrical failure, so there should have been no reason that you
> could not have moved to another car.
>

That's all fine and well when the train is lightly loaded, but how do you
get a carload of passengers into the adjacent car in a jam packed peak hour
train? And quickly too in the event of a fire?

Regards

David Bennetts


 
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Old 19th July 2008, 04:37 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Sylvia Else wrote:

> If such people fall out and kill themselves, I'd regard that as a plus,
> particularly if they do it before reproducing.
>


Maybe, but the Coroner usually does not take that view, nor insurance
companies.

Kevin Martin
 
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Old 19th July 2008, 06:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Sylvia Else wrote:

>
> Could be fixed by statute.
>


Well a government could in theory create any legislation, but the type
you are advocating is most unlikely.

Kevin Martin
 
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Old 20th July 2008, 10:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
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On Jul 19, 5:27 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:

> If such people fall out and kill themselves, I'd regard that as a plus,
> particularly if they do it before reproducing.


Oh for the days when suburban lines weren't fenced, and anyone who
liked could take themselves out of the evolutionary running whenever
they wanted.

 
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Old 21st July 2008, 09:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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In <cec98b30-41b8-484e-958e-5782880e9a35@x36g2000prg.************.com>, GrassyNoel <geracen@webace.com.au> writes:
>On Jul 19, 5:27=A0pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:
>
>> If such people fall out and kill themselves, I'd regard that as a plus,
>> particularly if they do it before reproducing.

>
>Oh for the days when suburban lines weren't fenced, and anyone who
>liked could take themselves out of the evolutionary running whenever
>they wanted.
>


They are not fenced in the USA but your desired outcome has not been achieved.



 
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Old 21st July 2008, 09:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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On Jul 19, 6:00 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:

> Could be fixed by statute.


Yeah, this whole 'duty of care' bull is wearing a bit thin these days.
 
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