Adelaide Electification

Talking of Australian state capitals, Darwin and Hobart are also without an
electrified rail network.

> Electrification and tram-trains for Adelaide
> THE only Australian state capital without an electrified rail network is
> to receive $A 2 billion (1.9 billion) investment over the .......etc"

On Jun 24, 10:42 am, "Graham Sheldon" <gray....@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Talking of Australian state capitals, Darwin and Hobart are also without an
> electrified rail network.

I don't think Darwin is a state capital, but Hobart certainly is. It
looks like that little island off the south coast has been left off
the map - again!!

John

Athol wrote:
> Paul Blair wrote:
>
>> The Victorians will now have an interesting situation. Their system
>> seems to be slowly going to standard gauge, but their metro system is
>> broad gauge and 1500 VDC. Shopping for equipment just go a whole lot
>> harder...
>
> So we'll have a mixture across the country where Adelaide will be the
> only one running the modern "standard" of standard gauge and 25kV AC.
>
> QLD have 25kV but it's on narrow gauge and "visiting" standard gauge
> rolling stock are banned from using it on the dual gauge lines from NSW.
>
> NSW have standard gauge but it's 1500V DC.
>
> VIC have broad gauge with 1500V DC.
>
> ACT have no real functional train services...
>
> What gauge and voltage is WA?

Perth's suburban system is all 1067mm (narrow) gauge, using 25kV
electrification.

Paul Westcott

On 24 Jun 2008 21:22:02 GMT, Matthew Geier
<matthew@no.sleeper.no.apana.no.org.no.au> wrote:

>> From memory, that's the way it's done in Manchester, where the tram runs
>> into Victoria station.
>
> Nope - Manchester trams are high floor

Yes, you're right, now that I think a bit more carefully. Engage
brain before starting tongue...

>- the platforms make them level
>boarding - this results in quite high platforms structures being built in
>the streets

St Peter's square now comes to mind, those platforms certainly weren't
at street level.

>- a lot of the out part of the 1st stage of the modern
>Manchester tramway was converted suburban railway anyway - the trams use
>the former stations.

Indeed - the line to Bury on one side of the city, and another (whose
name escapes me now - Sale?) on the other side, beyond the old central
station.

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:31:49 +1000, Paul Blair wrote:


> The Victorians will now have an interesting situation. Their system
> seems to be slowly going to standard gauge, but their metro system is
> broad gauge and 1500 VDC. Shopping for equipment just go a whole lot
> harder...

The Sydney and Melbourne suburban systems are probably bigger than the
rest of the Australian city urban railways combined. Sydney and Melbourne
individually are probably bigger than the rest combined.

1500vDC is a common system world wide. The southern half of France is
1500vDC for example.
Effectively the only difference between the traction electronics in a
25kV AC train and a 1500v DC train is that the AC train is carrying a
transformer.

Track gauge and particularly the loading gauge would have a more
significant impact.

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> John Dennis wrote:
>> On Jun 24, 10:42 am, "Graham Sheldon" <gray....@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>> Talking of Australian state capitals, Darwin and Hobart are also without
>>> an
>>> electrified rail network.
>>
>> I don't think Darwin is a state capital, but Hobart certainly is. It
>> looks like that little island off the south coast has been left off
>> the map - again!!
>>
>> John
> Hobart or Darwin don't have any rail network to speak of.

Though Hobart did once have quite a useful suburban service (railcars) along
the Derwent Valley.

Regards

David Bennetts

On Jun 30, 9:33 am, "scoot" <scoot...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> Probably a little more than that, David. The IP is twice weeky, but the
> Prospector to Kalgoorlie is twice daily, the Merredin Avonlink is daily, as
> is the Northam Avonlink. There is also the private dining train, cant recall
> the name, and I think that runs Friday and Sunday. Still not busy, but a
> little more than twice a week. No freight runs on tis section though.

Sadly the Spirit of the West dinner train has been suspended/withdrawn
because of high fuel prices.