Metro throws Sydney's big plan on its head

Where does that ridiculous 4000 passengers per hour figure come from? An
eight car double deck set can carry up to 2000 passengers (provided they're
not all sumo wrestlers) so that means just one train every half hour in
peak.


Regards

David Bennetts

Matthew Geier <matthew@no.sleeper.no.apana.no.org.no.au> wrote:

> Well the obvious thing is to refit the Epping-Chatswood line to run a
> high density 'metro' service

All that does is move most of the problem to Chatswood instead of
Epping. <rolls eyes>

Bill Bolton
Sydney, Australia

On Wed, 07 May 2008 18:30:41 +1000, Bill Bolton
<billbolton@computer.org> wrote:

> Matthew Geier <matthew@no.sleeper.no.apana.no.org.no.au> wrote:
>
> > Well the obvious thing is to refit the Epping-Chatswood line to run a
> > high density 'metro' service
>
> All that does is move most of the problem to Chatswood instead of
> Epping.

Also it would reduce the number of trains running south from Chatswood.
I'm assuming that trains from North Ryde will continue to the city. If
not, we're going to have awfully packed trains on the lower shore and we
might even get close to this theoretical load of 2000 people per train
(I really can't imagine cramming 250 folk into each carraige).
--
Steven

On May 8, 7:53 am, C. Dewick <cra...@lios.apana.org.au> wrote:
>
> It's not like there is any industrial rail connection to Kurnell. The area
> would certainly benefit from that but could you see the local residents
> agreeing to an industrial branch line coming off the Cronulla like somewhere
> just after the Gannons Road overbridge, running around the permiter of the
> golf course, then following Captain Cook Drive all the way out to to
> Kurnell! Great idea (like the railway to Jervis Bay) but hard to see it
> ever happening. 8-)

Have you tried asking your bosses at Independant Rail if they will
consider it? ;)

Oh wait, is that RailCorp now?

On May 8, 6:41 pm, Somebody in the WWW <microch...@**********> wrote:
> On May 8, 7:53 am, C. Dewick <cra...@lios.apana.org.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> > It's not like there is any industrial rail connection to Kurnell. The area
> > would certainly benefit from that but could you see the local residents
> > agreeing to an industrial branch line coming off the Cronulla like somewhere
> > just after the Gannons Road overbridge, running around the permiter of the
> > golf course, then following Captain Cook Drive all the way out to to
> > Kurnell! Great idea (like the railway to Jervis Bay) but hard to see it
> > ever happening. 8-)
>
> Have you tried asking your bosses at Independant Rail if they will
> consider it? ;)
>
> Oh wait, is that RailCorp now?

Has he been sacked again?

On May 9, 4:43 am, C. Dewick <cra...@lios.apana.org.au> wrote:
> Err, no.

Why not? Could be a lot of profit to be made ;)

On Sun, 11 May 2008 03:26:31 +0000, Chris Bell wrote:


> When I was there, there were doors at each
> pair of seats, so loading was quick. Not sure about current design of
> trains.

Not any more. The trains that had lots of doors were the old 'slam door'
stock that have all been withdrawn. All suburban services are now by
trains with only two sets of doors a side.
Their passenger growth has been such that operators are now taking seats
out to increase standing room. (Converting 2 x 3 to 2 x 2 mainly). The
only 'upgrades' they are getting to increase capacity are to increase
train lengths to 12 cars where they are not already 12 cars.
New tracks are too expensive and their infrastructure too constrained to
run double decked stock, so they fiddle at the edges.

There seems to me much the same allergy to spending on infrastructure
that NSW has.