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Old 19th November 2004, 03:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
John Coyle
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Default How long will RTT speed restriction last?

In an overreaction to the derailment of the CTT North of Bundaberg,
the RTT has been restricted to 100km/h SOUTH of Bundaberg!
Why?

The attraction of the Tilt train is that it can travel safely at
160km/h on suitable track. The Line used by the electric Tilt train is
not related to the line North of Bundy, so why the speed restriction?
And, how long will the very low speeds operate for? Until the report
into the CTT derailment in six to nine months?

John Coyle
 
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Old 20th November 2004, 06:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default How long will RTT speed restriction last?

Ask Bromage. He knows everything!!!


"John Coyle" <tramwayjohn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In an overreaction to the derailment of the CTT North of Bundaberg,
> the RTT has been restricted to 100km/h SOUTH of Bundaberg!
> Why?
>
> The attraction of the Tilt train is that it can travel safely at
> 160km/h on suitable track. The Line used by the electric Tilt train is
> not related to the line North of Bundy, so why the speed restriction?
> And, how long will the very low speeds operate for? Until the report
> into the CTT derailment in six to nine months?
>
> John Coyle



 
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Old 21st November 2004, 05:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default How long will RTT speed restriction last?

> In an overreaction to the derailment of the CTT North of Bundaberg,
> the RTT has been restricted to 100km/h SOUTH of Bundaberg!
> Why?
>
> The attraction of the Tilt train is that it can travel safely at
> 160km/h on suitable track. The Line used by the electric Tilt train is
> not related to the line North of Bundy, so why the speed restriction?
> And, how long will the very low speeds operate for? Until the report
> into the CTT derailment in six to nine months?
>
> John Coyle


John,
You are forgetting a few things,
- The RTT runs to Bundy and Rocky, not just Bundy.
- The line north of Bundy to Rocky is actually better (straight and
faster) than south.
- The line north to Bundy from Brisbane uses the same signalling and
safe working as to at least Rocky.
- To the best of my knowledge, both the RTT and CTT don't use ATP for
the same reason so both trains run with two drivers (cheap management
fix). So what applies to one applies to the other in this regard.
Travelling safely on this line under the current system for the
RTT/CTT's is probably as prone to error as if driving on the Yaraka
line. If you miss slowing for a curve and go around at nearly double
the speed, you are going to have a bad day.

How long will the train travel slowly could be a while, but longer if
they need to introduce some sort of electronic protection. At least
after this the RTT and CTT should drop down to one only driver, as
this accident clearly shows the two driver system doesn't work.

As for a follow up post of yours, yes if the driver stuffed up. He
could get charged. If someone had died, the driver and/or others in QR
could in fact go to jail (but unlikely) under industrial manslaughter.
What could also happen is the passengers if not happy with
compensation they could take a civil action against the driver and/or
others in QR and personally sue them. No employee is imune from
criminal or civil actions if found guilty of not doing their job.
Under Qld WPHS, if the drivers didn't think the train was safe, then
they should have never got into the cab. By doing so and within their
knowledge base they are accepting certain liabilities that the train
is safe to operate and they are competent to drive it.

I think it Canada were the police also use radar on railways and book
the driver for speeding, just as if he was on the road.

Shane
 
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