Security 2 and from Oz

as I sit here tonight trying to shake off the jet lag, I thought what the
hell lets give the low down on traveling from the US to Aussie land and
back...starting point being DFW ... very somber and to the point at security
check point...shoes off, lap top out of bag, cell phones and digital cameras
in tray....you pass and if they select you, your selected to get poofed for
traces of matter in a chamber ... no one smiles. its all business....

Bags are sent thru to Sydney...no personal search for international flight
to OZ if you arrive by AA which shares the hub with Qantas.....but they do
re-ticket you for Aussie flight...passport in hand and ticket which they
tear up and reissue a new boarding pass....flight at 12:30 at night to
Oz.....we arrive at 6 Aussie time into Sydney and deport to immigration and
customs....the late Steve Irwin and his 2 beagles in an on board video warns
against anyone coming into Oz with any food, raw fruit,spread like cheese or
mayo or a skinned chicken which they show....Steve warns you they will find
anything you might smuggle into OZ....this point you must of filled out an
immigration card to enter OZ on the jet.....ask if your caring any food,
been on a farm, illicit drugs....must state what your intention is for
entering OZ.....holiday ( vacation) or other selections as work visa and
such.....you must have this card filled out...dog comes by and sniffs each
and everyone...not beagles but lab....get you passport stamped.....leave the
area but you again must pass x-ray luggage as well as carryon to exit
international to domestic flights...

domestic flights seems who cares....x ray carry on....get on the jet and
go....arrive Surfers Paradise

Leave Gold Coast on Jet Star, really could care less but you get the once
over again.....arrive in Sydney from terminal 1 to 2 international...they
x-ray your carry on baggage.....typical inspection.......we walk a long
corridor to jet hub....we really don't notice cloth blinds along the
corridor...then we are all of a sudden faced with 40 gun laden marshals
waiting to do all but a strip search ....every carry on bag is
searched.....everyone is patted down as well scanned by a metal
detector......they are full force and no smiles...women searched by female
marshal...on leaving flight you must have filled out another immigration
card with basically the same questions as the Aussie card asks but for USA
admission....you get the once over from the imagration officer and allowed
to enter.....

Checked luggage is screened.....women's luggage the most....they will search
your make up, all of it....they are interested in your nail polish
mostly...both coming and going the nail polish gets lower and lower in
volume.....even if packed in easy to reach roll out make up packaging, they
will search your make up....if your mirror is in the way, they don't care if
they break it.....ladies pack your make up in easy to reach
packaging....leave at top of luggage for quick access....all in all, be
patient, the lines are not that long in all instances....you get thru in
less than 10 minute waits....

"Mindy" <drranchtx@> wrote in message
news:EEILg.16016$Qf.10520@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
> as I sit here tonight trying to shake off the jet lag, I thought what the
> hell lets give the low down on traveling from the US to Aussie land and
> back...starting point being DFW ... very somber and to the point at
> security check point...shoes off, lap top out of bag, cell phones and
> digital cameras in tray....you pass and if they select you, your selected
> to get poofed for traces of matter in a chamber ... no one smiles. its all
> business....
>
> Bags are sent thru to Sydney...no personal search for international flight
> to OZ if you arrive by AA which shares the hub with Qantas.....but they do
> re-ticket you for Aussie flight...passport in hand and ticket which they
> tear up and reissue a new boarding pass....flight at 12:30 at night to
> Oz.....we arrive at 6 Aussie time into Sydney and deport to immigration
> and customs....the late Steve Irwin and his 2 beagles in an on board video
> warns against anyone coming into Oz with any food, raw fruit,spread like
> cheese or mayo or a skinned chicken which they show....Steve warns you
> they will find anything you might smuggle into OZ....this point you must
> of filled out an immigration card to enter OZ on the jet.....ask if your
> caring any food, been on a farm, illicit drugs....must state what your
> intention is for entering OZ.....holiday ( vacation) or other selections
> as work visa and such.....you must have this card filled out...dog comes
> by and sniffs each and everyone...not beagles but lab....get you passport
> stamped.....leave the area but you again must pass x-ray luggage as well
> as carryon to exit international to domestic flights...
>
> domestic flights seems who cares....x ray carry on....get on the jet and
> go....arrive Surfers Paradise
>
> Leave Gold Coast on Jet Star, really could care less but you get the once
> over again.....arrive in Sydney from terminal 1 to 2 international...they
> x-ray your carry on baggage.....typical inspection.......we walk a long
> corridor to jet hub....we really don't notice cloth blinds along the
> corridor...then we are all of a sudden faced with 40 gun laden marshals
> waiting to do all but a strip search ....every carry on bag is
> searched.....everyone is patted down as well scanned by a metal
> detector......they are full force and no smiles...women searched by female
> marshal...on leaving flight you must have filled out another immigration
> card with basically the same questions as the Aussie card asks but for USA
> admission....you get the once over from the imagration officer and allowed
> to enter.....
>
> Checked luggage is screened.....women's luggage the most....they will
> search your make up, all of it....they are interested in your nail polish
> mostly...both coming and going the nail polish gets lower and lower in
> volume.....even if packed in easy to reach roll out make up packaging,
> they will search your make up....if your mirror is in the way, they don't
> care if they break it.....ladies pack your make up in easy to reach
> packaging....leave at top of luggage for quick access....all in all, be
> patient, the lines are not that long in all instances....you get thru in
> less than 10 minute waits....
>
well Mindy, you could always just sat in US and not travel :)

Thank you ant for understanding this report on the process, not a commentary
on the policy....I posted this to the Fodor's forum and caught all sorts of
flak as if I was reporting on policy....it is great to see someone
understand the cosmetic searches....this is what I experienced and wanted
female or 1st time travelers to see what was happening.....pack your
cosmetics in easy to open cases, remove mirrors and expect to see some
opened lids and some damaged goods is not unusual...that's all....


"ant" <tianyin@chinatianyin.com> wrote in message
news:4mab7mF5ab2hU1@...
> This would be really useful for USA people. Notice the security for
flights
> heading TO the US was much stronger?
> The security that was put in place after S11 wasnt' that far from what we
> had here before it. No knives, for instance.
> The stuff about their interest in makeup tallies with my experience coming
> away from the US in April though, they evidently went into my clear
plastic
> case of lipsticks (I bought up big in the 99 cent thing where they got rid
> of old Cover Girl shades). Some casings were cracked.
>
>

No matter what you say to read, which I did, what we went thru is what
happens....and it happened over again.......you cant have jells, creams,
liquids or aerosols....plain and simple in carry on....what I talked about
is checked luggage if you read the report carefully....now let me give you
an example I haven't mentioned...I saved for the grandkids something that
Qantas gives out from my going to Oz flight.... a little pouch with a Qantas
emblem sealed in plastic which contain socks, a sleep mask and a plastic
sealed tampon shaped tube with a small tooth brush and maybe an inch long
tube of tooth paste...never had opend it in the first place just put it in
.......had it in carryon back pack......on the preboard search back to the
US, the air marshal tore that whole packaging apart...and removed the inch
long tube of toothpaste....handed everything apart back....you can not take
gels, creams, liquids or aerosols on board in carryon, no matter what...even
chap stick...I only report what actually happens, not what you read Texan
will happen....read Ants reply Texan..and like Ant said, they will damage
items in search of checked baggage...so dont make things worse by double
wrapping something.....keep it simple for quick and easy access to the
inspectors....or as you say, " I have NO sympathy when people chose to
ignore advice " ....



<texan....usenet@texas...removethisbit...usacom. .> wrote in message
news:q9n1g2d9qpjhvnofb0dos0k9qd6g1jmut6@...
> On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:16:20 GMT, "Mindy" <drranchtx@>
> wrote:
>
> >Jo Anne, after talking with my wife more let me add some more info.....I
> >myself know nothing of cosmetics, same as she my tools but she feels her
> >cosmetics are very personal....so with her input let me say this....her
most
> >expensive facial cream was squeezed out or pumped out of her cosmetics in
> >the searchs....someone had been in all of them.....she doesnt care who
but
> >you will see loss of vauable cosmetic solutions in the search of
> >items.....had she known this she would of packed cheaper items like Oil
of
> >Oly or sample packs of her most expensive stuff than let it be wasted in
> >searchs.....now let us refine this statement, we fully back searchs, but
if
> >you are packing your stuff that cost alot, beware they dump alot of it in
> >searches.....beware and pack accordingly.....that is all we are
> >saying....have the time of your life there....it is more expensive than
the
> >states but what the hey, it is your vacation and Oz will prove to be
worth
> >every penny you spend....money matters, they have no pennies or 1 dollar
> >bills....the exchange of dollars may confuse you but look at the coins
you
> >get back and they will be in 1 dollar, 2 dollar, 20 cent, 5 cent, 50 cent
> >pieces....you'll get used to the money....have fun and let us know if we
can
> >provide any info that may help your trip...
> >
> I posted a msge in your thread prior to your departure regarding new
> regulations on what could be carried in your carryon etc and a link to
> the TSA's website.
>
> For whatever reason/s it appears that you did not bother to go to the
> site and read it otherwise you and your wife would have been VERY
> aware of what could and could not be carried i.e. cosmetics, in your
> carryon luggage!
>
> She could have packed it in her carryon [and double bagged it as I
> suggested] and saved herself a LOT of grief!
>
> Sorry but I have NO sympathy when people chose to ignore advice - and
> lordy there's been enough on the news media here about carryon items
> these past weeks!
>
> Cath

I blame no one...just that this happens....this is not a commentary of
policy....just what happens if you travel to Oz and back....plain and
simple...who cares who does what......not me.....BUT......if your a woman
and you have expensive cosmetics, beware of what does happen.....4 days ago
this is what transpired Bob....this is aimed to women travelers which I
wishes to convey....my husband doesn't know what quality cosmetics
cost....Ant said she bought 99 products.....but it is special to her, that
is what counts to women....like shoes, you will never understand....we loved
Australia while there...



"AlmostBob" <anonymous1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:JzSLg.6070$0k7.3@clgrps13...
> your problem is with the merkins, not the aussies
>
> --
> If at first you dont succeed
> try try try again
> If at first you do succeed
> try not to look surprised
>
> _
> "Mindy" <drranchtx@> wrote in message
> news:EEILg.16016$Qf.10520@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
>> as I sit here tonight trying to shake off the jet lag, I thought what the
>> hell lets give the low down on traveling from the US to Aussie land and
>> back...starting point being DFW ... very somber and to the point at
> security
>> check point...shoes off, lap top out of bag, cell phones and digital
> cameras
>> in tray....you pass and if they select you, your selected to get poofed
> for
>> traces of matter in a chamber ... no one smiles. its all business....
>>
>> Bags are sent thru to Sydney...no personal search for international
>> flight
>> to OZ if you arrive by AA which shares the hub with Qantas.....but they
>> do
>> re-ticket you for Aussie flight...passport in hand and ticket which they
>> tear up and reissue a new boarding pass....flight at 12:30 at night to
>> Oz.....we arrive at 6 Aussie time into Sydney and deport to immigration
> and
>> customs....the late Steve Irwin and his 2 beagles in an on board video
> warns
>> against anyone coming into Oz with any food, raw fruit,spread like cheese
> or
>> mayo or a skinned chicken which they show....Steve warns you they will
> find
>> anything you might smuggle into OZ....this point you must of filled out
>> an
>> immigration card to enter OZ on the jet.....ask if your caring any food,
>> been on a farm, illicit drugs....must state what your intention is for
>> entering OZ.....holiday ( vacation) or other selections as work visa and
>> such.....you must have this card filled out...dog comes by and sniffs
>> each
>> and everyone...not beagles but lab....get you passport stamped.....leave
> the
>> area but you again must pass x-ray luggage as well as carryon to exit
>> international to domestic flights...
>>
>> domestic flights seems who cares....x ray carry on....get on the jet and
>> go....arrive Surfers Paradise
>>
>> Leave Gold Coast on Jet Star, really could care less but you get the once
>> over again.....arrive in Sydney from terminal 1 to 2 international...they
>> x-ray your carry on baggage.....typical inspection.......we walk a long
>> corridor to jet hub....we really don't notice cloth blinds along the
>> corridor...then we are all of a sudden faced with 40 gun laden marshals
>> waiting to do all but a strip search ....every carry on bag is
>> searched.....everyone is patted down as well scanned by a metal
>> detector......they are full force and no smiles...women searched by
>> female
>> marshal...on leaving flight you must have filled out another immigration
>> card with basically the same questions as the Aussie card asks but for
>> USA
>> admission....you get the once over from the imagration officer and
>> allowed
>> to enter.....
>>
>> Checked luggage is screened.....women's luggage the most....they will
> search
>> your make up, all of it....they are interested in your nail polish
>> mostly...both coming and going the nail polish gets lower and lower in
>> volume.....even if packed in easy to reach roll out make up packaging,
> they
>> will search your make up....if your mirror is in the way, they don't care
> if
>> they break it.....ladies pack your make up in easy to reach
>> packaging....leave at top of luggage for quick access....all in all, be
>> patient, the lines are not that long in all instances....you get thru in
>> less than 10 minute waits....
>>
>>
>
>

<texan....usenet@texas...removethisbit...usacom. .> wrote in message
news:nmj4g25k89qvuft1sp6cjccthb55h0j00u@...
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 20:36:09 +1000, "ant" <tianyin@chinatianyin.com>
> wrote:
>
> >It's been like that since S 11.
> >
>
> 9/11 is the common term used.
>
Not in countries that interpret 9/11 as meaning the 9th of November.

Mindy wrote:
> ....on the preboard search back to the
> US, the air marshal tore that whole packaging apart...and removed the inch
> long tube of toothpaste....handed everything apart back....you can not take
> gels, creams, liquids or aerosols on board in carryon, no matter what...even
> chap stick...I only report what actually happens, not what you read Texan
> will happen....read Ants reply Texan..and like Ant said, they will damage
> items in search of checked baggage...so dont make things worse by double
> wrapping something.....keep it simple for quick and easy access to the
> inspectors...
I am not exactly sure who posted the above, but even after checking
baggage in be prepared for destruction of same.

After checking my baggage at LAX (with the TSA folks), packages of
Tim-Tams twisted like a pair of wrung sox and then thrown in with tools,
books, etc..

4 panniers, satchels and boxes of items all taken apart, some things
torn (instead of just opened with a knot that anyone wearing shoes could
undo) apart and then thrown together....

If going to OZ from your home country try to avoid going through the USA
while they are implementing this policy.....

>
> After checking my baggage at LAX (with the TSA folks), packages of
> Tim-Tams twisted like a pair of wrung sox and then thrown in with tools,
> books, etc..
>
> If going to OZ from your home country try to avoid going through the USA
> while they are implementing this policy.....

Are you still forced to get a USA tourist visa if transitting (is there such
a word?)
through LAX? Everyone flying to Vancouver was forced through US immigration
given 6 month tourist visas and then told to checkin again at the airline
counters.
They had all this sooper dooper sekurite but you could just walk out the
terminal
and disappear - which no doubt is how most self respecting terrorists get
into
the USA.

Roger wrote:
>> After checking my baggage at LAX (with the TSA folks), packages of
>> Tim-Tams twisted like a pair of wrung sox and then thrown in with tools,
>> books, etc..
>>
>> If going to OZ from your home country try to avoid going through the USA
>> while they are implementing this policy.....
>>
>
> Are you still forced to get a USA tourist visa if transitting (is there such
> a word?)
> through LAX? Everyone flying to Vancouver was forced through US immigration
> given 6 month tourist visas and then told to checkin again at the airline
> counters.
>
I as a Canadian was herded (mooo???) into the same group as the US
citizens, and those with US visas...
> They had all this sooper dooper sekurite but you could just walk out the
> terminal
> and disappear - which no doubt is how most self respecting terrorists get
> into
> the USA.
>
>

I wonder what the non-self respecting and really serious ones do ;-)
Yes, there was no apparent "coral system" for those in transit to make
sure they did not stray away.. Not a single Border Collie in sight.