What is Adelaide Like?

I would like to know what Adelaide is like. Here are my questions:

1. Are there similarly diverse restaurants, stores and goods like you
find in Sydney and Brisbane?
2. Is it expensive (in general)? Much cheaper than Sydney? Cost of a
holiday rental for one month? The average dinner (like at a chinese
place)?
3. What is the ocean water temperature like in January? Is it cool or
tropical? (I know the air temperature is around 30C in January). Are
the beaches nice like eastern Australia?
4. How is the scenery? Mountains? Pure fresh air?
5. Are crocidiles and snakes found like they are on the east coast?
6. Will it be easy to bicycle around town and in the suburds? Bicycle
paths anywhere?

Any other information would be greatly appreciated?

> 1. Are there similarly diverse restaurants, stores and goods like you
> find in Sydney and Brisbane?
Adelaide is a very normal Australian town. The area for night-owls is around
Hindley Street. I faintly remember a restaurant called Jerusalem Shishkebab.
Hope it still exists.

> Bicycle:
if you come from America, keep in mind that Australia has left-hand traffic.
You might feel somewhat insecure if you ride a bicycle or drive a car. The
bus system is all right.

> Any other information would be greatly appreciated?
Yes, the tap water contains lots of minerals and looks as if it was dirty.
It is not, but most houses collect rain water for cooking and drinking.

Adelaide might be a good place to start an excursion to the Outback.

Enjoy your stay there - I did!

Turan

"JohnH" <JohnH4999@m> wrote in message
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SNIP
>
> Adelaide (population 1,119,920 in June 2003)
> Coastline: 3,700 kilometres (with 100 islands)
> Temps in January are around 30C - 39C so water will be quite warm, so all
> can go swimming.
> Beaches are long and clean, white and sandy
>

Beaches definitely not as nice as those around Sydney which are better than
those around Brisbane. The beaches around Adelaide are on the St Vincent
Gulf not directly in the Southern Ocean. The only beaches on the Southern
Ocean anywhere near Adelaide are those near Port Elliot and Middleton. These
are better than the beaches like those at Glenelg and Semaphore (both
suburbs of Adelaide).

BTW I still reckon you should come to Perth. Our beaches are better and the
bicycle facilities beat those in the other Australian cities.

Gerrit - Perth

Perth was my first choice until I learned that the diversity of goods
and services (such as restuarants) was not as high as the east coast. I
want to try different soft drinks and such. Goods are also more
expensive due to the isolation. It appeared to me Perth is not typical
Australian but almost like another country. That's not bad, only I want
to experience Australia. You could convince me to stay the summer
though. What is the ocean temperature like in January? There are good
beaches? What is the average cost of a chinese restaurant dinner? In
the US is about AUS$15.00. In Europe it's about AUS$20.00.


Gerrit 't Hart wrote:
> "JohnH" <JohnH4999@m> wrote in message
> news:44f6487e_3@news.chariot.net.au...
>
> SNIP
> >
> > Adelaide (population 1,119,920 in June 2003)
> > Coastline: 3,700 kilometres (with 100 islands)
> > Temps in January are around 30C - 39C so water will be quite warm, so all
> > can go swimming.
> > Beaches are long and clean, white and sandy
> >
>
> Beaches definitely not as nice as those around Sydney which are better than
> those around Brisbane. The beaches around Adelaide are on the St Vincent
> Gulf not directly in the Southern Ocean. The only beaches on the Southern
> Ocean anywhere near Adelaide are those near Port Elliot and Middleton. These
> are better than the beaches like those at Glenelg and Semaphore (both
> suburbs of Adelaide).
>
> BTW I still reckon you should come to Perth. Our beaches are better and the
> bicycle facilities beat those in the other Australian cities.
>
> Gerrit - Perth

"Turan Fettahoglu" <turan.fe@t-online.de> wrote in message
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>> 1. Are there similarly diverse restaurants, stores and goods like you
>> find in Sydney and Brisbane?
> Adelaide is a very normal Australian town. The area for night-owls is
> around Hindley Street. I faintly remember a restaurant called Jerusalem
> Shishkebab. Hope it still exists.
>
>> Bicycle:
> if you come from America, keep in mind that Australia has left-hand
> traffic. You might feel somewhat insecure if you ride a bicycle or drive a
> car. The bus system is all right.

No, the buses are on the left as well as the cars.

>> Any other information would be greatly appreciated?
> Yes, the tap water contains lots of minerals and looks as if it was dirty.
> It is not, but most houses collect rain water for cooking and drinking.
>
> Adelaide might be a good place to start an excursion to the Outback.
>
> Enjoy your stay there - I did!
>
> Turan
>

<cenorthamericam> wrote in message
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> Perth was my first choice until I learned that the diversity of goods
> and services (such as restuarants) was not as high as the east coast. I
> want to try different soft drinks and such. Goods are also more
> expensive due to the isolation. It appeared to me Perth is not typical
> Australian but almost like another country. That's not bad, only I want
> to experience Australia. You could convince me to stay the summer
> though. What is the ocean temperature like in January? There are good
> beaches? What is the average cost of a chinese restaurant dinner? In
> the US is about AUS$15.00. In Europe it's about AUS$20.00.
>

You've come up against the inherent "animosity/rivalry" between east and
west coast Australia.
I live in the Perth area and have been on both sides of the country.
The cost of living in Perth has historically been lower than in Sydney and
Melbourne.
Over the last year or two that is changing due to the economic boom here in
the west.
Choice of restaurants here in Perth is no less than in NSW or Victoria. Just
remember that Perth has about 1.5 million people against Sydney or Melbourne
over 3 million so naturally there will be less restaurants but IMHO the
diversity is about the same. You just have less numbers of each type.
I just received a brochure in the mail from a chain of Asian restaurants (on
the lower end of the scale - less ambiance etc - but food I gather is quite
good) and will list some of the prices for 2 banquets available. Minimum of
4 persons in party.

Banquet A
1 Spring Roll
2 Chicken Salad
3 Green Curry Chicken
4 Lemon Prawn
5 Pepper Squid
7 Steamed Rice
Price 18.95 per person

Banquet B
1 Spring Roll
2 Satay Chicken
3 Beef Curry
4 Chicken Bamboo
5 Prawn Basil
6 Pepper Squid
7 Vegetable Noodle
8 Steamed Rice
Price $21.95 per person
Both prices include taxes and NO tips are required in Australia

Perth has about 80km (50miles) within the metropolitan area. Most of these
are superior to Adelaide's and just as good but safer than Sydney's (don't
talk about Melbourne's so called beaches on Port Phillip Bay). Beyond the
metropolitan area there are many beaches both north and south.
Water temperatures rise the further north you go and drop towards the south.
Here is a 5 year average listing of water temperature on the coast near
Perth. This would be typical for the whole area.
All temperatures are in degrees Celsius.
January 22.4
Februay 22.6
March 22.2
April 20.6
May 19.3
June 16.9
July 16.6
August 15.9
September 16.8
October 18.1
November 19.7
December 21.3

Hope this is enough for the time being.
Wait for the flak from the Eastern Sates!

Gerrit - Perth

I thought we were answering the guys question , NOT trying to "blow ones
bags" about ones local areas.
There are areas in each state that are great, he asked about Adelaide...stop
confusing the guy.
John H
"Gerrit 't Hart" <gthart@sad.au> wrote in message
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>
> "JohnH" <JohnH4999@m> wrote in message
> news:44f6487e_3@news.chariot.net.au...
>
> SNIP
>>
>> Adelaide (population 1,119,920 in June 2003)
>> Coastline: 3,700 kilometres (with 100 islands)
>> Temps in January are around 30C - 39C so water will be quite warm, so all
>> can go swimming.
>> Beaches are long and clean, white and sandy
>>
>
> Beaches definitely not as nice as those around Sydney which are better
> than
> those around Brisbane. The beaches around Adelaide are on the St Vincent
> Gulf not directly in the Southern Ocean. The only beaches on the Southern
> Ocean anywhere near Adelaide are those near Port Elliot and Middleton.
> These
> are better than the beaches like those at Glenelg and Semaphore (both
> suburbs of Adelaide).
>
> BTW I still reckon you should come to Perth. Our beaches are better and
> the
> bicycle facilities beat those in the other Australian cities.
>
> Gerrit - Perth
>
>

JohnH <JohnH4999@m> wrote:
> I thought we were answering the guys question , NOT trying to "blow ones
> bags" about ones local areas.
> There are areas in each state that are great, he asked about Adelaide...stop
> confusing the guy.

He has also asked about Perth and other areas (mainly east coast
IIRC), hence Gerrit's response.

> John H
> "Gerrit 't Hart" <gthart@sad.au> wrote in message
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> >
> > "JohnH" <JohnH4999@m> wrote in message
> > news:44f6487e_3@news.chariot.net.au...
> >
> > SNIP
> >>
> >> Adelaide (population 1,119,920 in June 2003)
> >> Coastline: 3,700 kilometres (with 100 islands)
> >> Temps in January are around 30C - 39C so water will be quite warm, so all
> >> can go swimming.
> >> Beaches are long and clean, white and sandy
> >>
> >
> > Beaches definitely not as nice as those around Sydney which are better
> > than
> > those around Brisbane. The beaches around Adelaide are on the St Vincent
> > Gulf not directly in the Southern Ocean. The only beaches on the Southern
> > Ocean anywhere near Adelaide are those near Port Elliot and Middleton.
> > These
> > are better than the beaches like those at Glenelg and Semaphore (both
> > suburbs of Adelaide).
> >
> > BTW I still reckon you should come to Perth. Our beaches are better and
> > the
> > bicycle facilities beat those in the other Australian cities.
> >
> > Gerrit - Perth

If the OP wants to cycle to the beach from Adelaide, he will need strong
legs. Unless he fancies surfing at Glenelg. Perth has got the most
accessible strip of beach suburbs of any big city (Sydney's beaches are
better but generally more expensive).

Adelaide is extremely dull at night; Perth marginally less so.

Out of Adelaide and Perth, he would be crazy to do Adelaide, unless he was
into wine, serious food, or faux German villages - which I suspect not.
..

Interesting answer
So! with you being so blatantly biased against Adelaide,
I would wonder what makes "your city/town so vibrant to you?
Please do tell, so we all know what your preferences are!
Might be that the gay bars arent close enough to your
hotel or similar, seeing that you are only "almost Bob", perhaps "almost
Roberta"

No city is perfect for everyone, but to make a blanket statement like that
suggests its "you that is the problem" not the place where you are visiting.

I have been to most large cities/towns in Australia over 30 years and have
found
all have a uniqueness and something of value, even though I definitely
wouldnt live in some of them.
Perhaps you dont get outside of the pub when you go somewhere else and look
around the place properly.

If you want to start a verbal war on what each city has thats dull and
boring ,
I believe I could do quite well for every capital city, but it would only be
what I saw
in the limited time and area I went to, just as yours would be.

John H

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>a cemetary with street lights
> boring
>
>
> --
> If at first you dont succeed
> try try try again
> If at first you do succeed
> try not to look surprised
>
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> <cenorthamericam> wrote in message
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>> I would like to know what Adelaide is like. Here are my questions:
>>
>> 1. Are there similarly diverse restaurants, stores and goods like you
>> find in Sydney and Brisbane?
>> 2. Is it expensive (in general)? Much cheaper than Sydney? Cost of a
>> holiday rental for one month? The average dinner (like at a chinese
>> place)?
>> 3. What is the ocean water temperature like in January? Is it cool or
>> tropical? (I know the air temperature is around 30C in January). Are
>> the beaches nice like eastern Australia?
>> 4. How is the scenery? Mountains? Pure fresh air?
>> 5. Are crocidiles and snakes found like they are on the east coast?
>> 6. Will it be easy to bicycle around town and in the suburds? Bicycle
>> paths anywhere?
>>
>> Any other information would be greatly appreciated?
>>
>
>