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Old 4th June 2008, 01:33 PM   #21 (permalink)
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"William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> kirjoitti
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>
>> Mumbai (BOMBAY)Via Mahad and 120 K.M From Pune The Climate is
>>
>> You see the line above.........
>>
>> Filth is posted by google (non-indian) newsservers through Airtel servers
>> (very Indian).
>>

>
> So there isn't an Indian newserver.
>
> You were wrong, even though it's a very simple technical matter.
>
> No surprises there...
>

Time to enjoy your victory fully.

 
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Old 4th June 2008, 01:53 PM   #22 (permalink)
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"grusl" <george.w.russell@**********> kirjoitti
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On Jun 4, 5:24 pm, Markku Grönroos <kur...@hassuserveri.fi> wrote:
> "grusl" <george.w.russ...@**********> kirjoitti
> viestissä:ef800682-70bf-4cf7-822c-4fe00f08f...@l28g2000prd.************.com...
>
> >The BMTC map comes with the directory. It's a foldout, like the
> >Underground map with the London A-Z

>
> __________________________________________________ __________
>
> Yes but it is a different map. Moreover you need tons of different maps.
> It
> becomes very expensive to purchase them all. For instance you don't know
> by
> studying your stock of paper maps which street Dontad street joins with at
> it's northern end in Mumbai.


It comes together for Rs200. One map. Cheap.
_________________________________________________

And it didn't tell that the street in question is Jb Shah Road.

 
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Old 5th June 2008, 12:25 AM   #23 (permalink)
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"William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Markku Grönroos" <kurkku@hassuserveri.fi> wrote in message
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>>
>> "grusl" <george.w.russell@**********> kirjoitti
>> viestissä:4111ee91-07dc-4e24-8f70-4ff298456307@z16g2000prn.************.com...
>> On Jun 4, 5:24 pm, Markku Grönroos <kur...@hassuserveri.fi> wrote:
>>> "grusl" <george.w.russ...@**********> kirjoitti
>>> viestissä:ef800682-70bf-4cf7-822c-4fe00f08f...@l28g2000prd.************.com...
>>>
>>> >The BMTC map comes with the directory. It's a foldout, like the
>>> >Underground map with the London A-Z
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________ __________
>>>
>>> Yes but it is a different map. Moreover you need tons of different maps.
>>> It
>>> becomes very expensive to purchase them all. For instance you don't know
>>> by
>>> studying your stock of paper maps which street Dontad street joins with
>>> at
>>> it's northern end in Mumbai.

>>
>> It comes together for Rs200. One map. Cheap.
>> _________________________________________________
>>
>> And it didn't tell that the street in question is Jb Shah Road.

>
> If you think Indian street names remain the same long enough to print a
> newspaper, never mind a map, I have some news for you...
>
> Google Map is particularly prone to urban roads in India being given names
> that nobody knows about, nobody cares about and nobody uses.
>
>


He's trying to make a statement of accuracy that has no place in the real
world. While he's pressing his Garmin buttons to find Shah Road and Khan
Avenue, I'll just be getting to my destination.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore




 
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Old 5th June 2008, 02:07 AM   #24 (permalink)
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"William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> kirjoitti
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>> And it didn't tell that the street in question is Jb Shah Road.

>
> If you think Indian street names remain the same long enough to print a
> newspaper, never mind a map, I have some news for you...
>
> Google Map is particularly prone to urban roads in India being given names
> that nobody knows about, nobody cares about and nobody uses.
>

And your point was? You put lots of strain on names of roads.

 
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Old 5th June 2008, 11:03 AM   #25 (permalink)
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"William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> kirjoitti
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>
>>>

>> When you are riding a taxi you aren't navigating yourself. We aren't
>> talking about situations like this.

>
> So, you haven't been to India then...
>

Eh?
>
> As a general rule Indian Bombay drivers can't even read the street signs,
> never mind know the way to anywhere off the beaten track and tend to use
> the old British names for streets...
>

And you are supposed to tell them the way to the destination?
>
> Well, some of the time they do, and some of the time they don't,. it's
> complicated...
>
>>>
>>> Giving the latitude and longitude is a busted flush as well, and trying
>>> to navigate around Bombay by travelling towards your destination opens a
>>> world of hurt for you.
>>>

>> You get all the time the proper direction in this fashion. You just walk
>> in there. When the network is very irregular, it may cause some harm.
>> Bombay seems to be an easy piece of cake as far as navigation is
>> concerned.

>
> Walk along the LJ Road looking for an address!
>

The address is saved in the plotter.

> Have you got a death wish or something?
>
> This is Bombay we're talking about mate, the traffic doesn't stop when it
> knocks someone down, they just drive around you until a cop kicks what's
> left into the gutter for an ambulance to haul away.
>

Hmh! Navigation in Mumbai is like in any other town in the world. We are not
talking about traffic.

 
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Old 5th June 2008, 12:22 PM   #26 (permalink)
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"William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Markku Grönroos" <kurkku@hassuserveri.fi> wrote in message
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>>
>> "William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> kirjoitti

>
>>> As a general rule Indian Bombay drivers can't even read the street
>>> signs, never mind know the way to anywhere off the beaten track and tend
>>> to use the old British names for streets...
>>>

>> And you are supposed to tell them the way to the destination?

>
> Quite often, yes...
>
> Get a cab to Andeheri Village (which is actually deep inside the city
> suburbs) and you'll end up telling the cab driver exactly how to get
> there.
>
> That's assuming the vwehicle you're in is allowed to go where you want to
> be...
>
> Autorickshaws are not allowed over the causeways onto the island. But
> there are places where the only passing public transport is the
> autorickshaws...
>
> Getting an autorickshaw to Colaba is impossible, but they won't tell you
> that. They'll drop you off at one of the causeways, where some the taxis
> are driven by criminals who take anyone who looks prosperous down a nice
> dark alley and rob them...
>
> What clever people do is stop well short of the causeway and flag down a
> passing cab.
>
>> Hmh! Navigation in Mumbai is like in any other town in the world. We are
>> not talking about traffic.

>
> In Bombay everyone talks about the traffic...
>
> And it is unlike any other town in the world...
>


I think the regular cabs in Bombay are pretty good. Getting the
pronunciation right is the problem, especially with British names. If I say
Ballard Estate I get a blank look. Once I learned to say "Bala Desstay" I
was fine. Although with the Padminis, I'm only 167cm and still bang my head
on the window frames.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore


 
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Old 5th June 2008, 12:53 PM   #27 (permalink)
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"William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> kirjoitti
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>
> Get a cab to Andeheri Village (which is actually deep inside the city
> suburbs) and you'll end up telling the cab driver exactly how to get
> there.
>

I usually go to Andheri (see the correct spelling) to dine at Subway
Restaurant (19.11893, 72.85120) along MV Road about 200 meters southeast
from Ganpati Temple (also on MV Road). Sometimes I visit the MVLU College on
Azad Road nearby (19.12164, 72.85053).

 
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"William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Alan S" <nothere@there.com> wrote in message
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>> But one word no-one understood was "change". Giving a large
>> note to a driver was assumed to be fare plus tip.

>
> It's the same all over India.
>
> No autorickshaw driver ever has any change.
>
> --
> William Black
>


The ones in Chennai - by far the worst in India so far - will claim to have
no change even though you can see a wad of 10s and 20s in their shirt
pocket.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore




 
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