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Old 22nd December 2003, 11:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"Per Löwdin" <Perlowdin@m> wrote in message
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> Rumour has it that individual travel is permitted in Tibet again. Can

anyone
> confirm or refute this? We are thinking of cycling from Yunnan to Lhasa

and

Why don't you ask the Chinese authority?


 
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Old 22nd December 2003, 11:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:20:39 +0200, the renowned "Markku Grönroos"
> <hassu@serveri.fi> wrote:
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> >
> >"Per Löwdin" <Perlowdin@m> wrote in message
> >news:UgzFb.43298$dP1.169792@newsc.telia.net...
> >> Rumour has it that individual travel is permitted in Tibet again. Can

> >anyone
> >> confirm or refute this? We are thinking of cycling from Yunnan to Lhasa

> >and
> >
> >Why don't you ask the Chinese authority?

>
> They are not always a reliable source of information on such matters.
>

Who is more reliable on a decision to be made by Chinese? Someone in this
group?


 
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Old 22nd December 2003, 02:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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In article <bs76td$lq0$1@phys-news1.kolumbus.fi>, "Markku Grönroos"
<hassu@serveri.fi> writes:

>Who is more reliable on a decision to be made by Chinese? Someone in this
>group?
>


Actually, in this fast moving area (subject to unofficial policy) I would
suggest the appropriate branch of the ThornTree on the Lonelyplanet site.
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Old 23rd December 2003, 08:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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"Per Löwdin" <Dokomb@us.uu.se> wrote in message
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> > Who is more reliable on a decision to be made by Chinese?

>
> Markku: are you at all aware of Sino-Tibetan relations? The Chinese have
> no more right to be there than Russia or Sweden has had in their claims
> to Finland. Tibet is occupied.
>

It IS the Chinese who control visits to Tibet. Nobody cares about such
claims of powerless Swedes. Actually my suggestion is to contact a Chinese
agency to find out these technicalities. It might be far more laborous then
than to get similar piece of information concerning most other countries.
Somebody suggested a Lonely Planet database, which may turn to be a fertile
piece of advive.


 
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Old 23rd December 2003, 12:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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"Per Löwdin" <Dokomb@us.uu.se> schreef in bericht
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> > Who is more reliable on a decision to be made by Chinese?

>
> Markku: are you at all aware of Sino-Tibetan relations? The Chinese have
> no more right to be there than Russia or Sweden has had in their claims
> to Finland. Tibet is occupied.
>
> In fact the case of Finland offers some hope. The Finns survived
> hundreds of years of Swedish and Russian occupation.


Same for the Flemings:
Hundreds of years of french occupation or repression made them strong.
Also economically and financially but most of all morally
These days, the Flemings even are helping their former occupants
Every year, every Flemish family is transferring the value of 25% of an
average family car to every frenchspeaking family


> Hopefully, the
> Tibetans may do the same and emerge as an independent nation one day.


There will be a day that Tibetans will be economically stronger than China
(GDP per headcount)
The reasons are obvious: their moral strength is growing faster than in
China



 
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"Dieter Aaa" <Dieter Aa@pandora.cu> wrote in message
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> There will be a day that Tibetans will be economically stronger than China
> (GDP per headcount)
> The reasons are obvious: their moral strength is growing faster than in


I wouldn't put my money on this horse.



 
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