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Old 22nd January 2004, 01:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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In article <4010167d$0$70307$75868355@news.frii.net>,
Marval <pol1rileym> wrote:

> Can anyone help me out? trying to find a 6 place airplane that can truly
> carry it's load, single engine. looking for a payload of at least 1000
> pounds with full of fuel.


Why with full fuel? A more reasonable requirement is "can carry 1000
pounds plus enough fuel to go X miles with Y minutes reserve".

Let's say I find you an airplane that can carry 6 people with full fuel,
but the tanks are so small you can only go 100 miles with it. Will you
be happy?

Let's say I find you an airplane which can carry 6 people, if you only
fill the tanks half way, but that still leaves you enough fuel to fly
800 miles. Will you be unhappy?
 
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Old 23rd January 2004, 05:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Paul,

the PC-12/45 will load about 600 kg ( ~ 1300 lb ) with full fuel and
without seats to be taken out. Correct me if I'm wrong, just iirc-data.

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Peter

 
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Old 23rd January 2004, 07:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi,

> 1000lb load is all very well, but in my book that doesn't equate
> to 6 adults! 600kg would be nearer if "normal" male adults are
> called for. Would only be enough for 5 of me! :-)


Makes me think what the OP plans to do with 6 men in the plane...

*just kidding*

Peter

 
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Old 24th January 2004, 01:57 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Ray Andraka <ray@andraka.com> wrote in message news:<401189EF.5ECF6652@andraka.com>...
> I think you either made a math error or mis-typed. 88 gallons of fuel is 520 lbs, so if the useful
> load is 1400 lbs, then that leaves 880 lbs payload, not 1065. Maybe you meant adding the flint
> tanks gives you an additional 200 lbs useful load, and if you leave them empty it gets you close to
> that 1065 lbs. 1065 is only 15 lbs more than I get with my more or less stock Six, although I can
> only dream of 150+ kts. What kind of fuel burn do you get at that speed?
>
> Mike Long wrote:
>


Yes, I meant to imply the 1065 came with the addition of Flint Tanks
but with no fuel in them - only the 88 gallons standard. The Flint's
add 200 lbs to the gross weight. 15-16 gallons is the norm and the
small gear seems to make the airplane faster by more than I would have
thought.

Mike
 
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Old 25th January 2004, 02:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Marval wrote:

> Can anyone help me out? trying to find a 6 place airplane that can truly
> carry it's load, single engine. looking for a payload of at least 1000
> pounds with full of fuel.
>

CompAir?

 
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