Getting the bug for a new plane

Before you even consider the Cirrus check on insurance rates. A new
Cirrus may set you back something on the order of $12K per year for
insurance. The 182 won't be anywhere close to that.

Gerry Preston wrote:

> ...and wondering if anyone here has bought a factory-new plane recently.
> . .
>
> I bought a new C-172S in December 2001 out of Cessna factory inventory,
> through a local Florida dealer. The dealer wouldn't budge off MSRP, but
> Cessna incentives amounted to about $7500.
>
> I've enjoyed the plane but want more speed and useful load, so am
> considering a factory-new C-182T or possibly a low-time 2001 or 2002
> model. I'm also intrigued with the Cirrus SR-20 and might consider that
> as a possibility. My wife likes the idea of new, I think mainly because
> she believes it would be more reliable.
>
> Anyone here bought a new Cessna product recently? I know a while back
> there was a big discussion of whether or not an individual could bargain
> with a dealer like you do when buying a new car. What's the current
> thinking about all this? Obviously, I'd like the best deal I can get and
> those Cessna MSRP's are *really* way up there.
>
> Thanks,
> Gerry
> C-172S
> N5126J
> SRQ
>

"john smith" <jsmith@company.com> wrote in message
> It's a small step from a C172 to a C182, but a big leap from a C172 to a
> Cirrus SR20.

I would have to disagree. While I admit that my total time in an SR22 is
only about 10 minutes, I can assure you that it flies like a dream.

> If you pack lightly, stay in hotels, then speed and the Cirrus may be
> better.
> But if you don't have the experience, take your time and work up to it.
> You will live longer.

The statistics would appear to not support that statement. What's your beef
with Cirrus?

--
Jim Fisher

Jim Fisher wrote:
> > If you pack lightly, stay in hotels, then speed and the Cirrus may be
> > better.
> > But if you don't have the experience, take your time and work up to it.
> > You will live longer.
>
> The statistics would appear to not support that statement. What's your beef
> with Cirrus?

Which statement?
The one about packing lightly?
I don't think the Cirrus has the cabin volume or center of gravity range
in the baggage area due to the pinched empenage.

Or building time and experience?
You mean Thurmond Munson syndrome? Having the money to buy the aircraft
but not the experience to fly it.
Accident statistics bear this out. That's why insurance costs less as
you build time and experience.

"john smith" <jsmith@company.com> wrote in message
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> You mean Thurmond Munson syndrome? Having the money to buy the aircraft
> but not the experience to fly it.

???

IIRC, Munson had two instructors in the plane with him when he crashed.

"Tom S." <toms615@cox.net> wrote in message
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> "john smith" <jsmith@company.com> wrote in message
> > You mean Thurmond Munson syndrome? Having the money to buy the aircraft
> > but not the experience to fly it.
>
> ???
>
> IIRC, Munson had two instructors in the plane with him when he crashed.
>

Thank goodness he wasn't a doctor...

It's funny how we file events like that away in our heads.

"Tom S." wrote:
> IIRC, Munson had two instructors in the plane with him when he crashed.

Right. And where were they sitting?
Not in the right seat.
Not in the left seat.

"Tom S." wrote:
> IIRC, Munson had two instructors in the plane with him when he crashed.

Right. And where were they sitting?
Not in the right seat.
Not in the left seat.

"john smith" <jsmith@company.com> wrote in message
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> "Tom S." wrote:
> > IIRC, Munson had two instructors in the plane with him when he crashed.
>
> Right. And where were they sitting?
> Not in the right seat.
> Not in the left seat.

The porta potty?

IIRC, one instructor was in the left seat and one in the "jump seat".
(Memory dims after 25 years).