Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation

"Ned" <nednot@aioe.org> wrote in message news:fgbma5$o3v$2@aioe.org...
> Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
> Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007
>
> Flying in a jetliner is extraordinarily safe: There has been only one
> fatal crash in the United States in the past five years, an astounding
> record considering that more than 30,000 flights take off every day. How
> did flying get so reliable? In part, because of accidents that triggered
> crucial safety improvements. Here are eight crashes and two emergency
> landings whose influence is felt -- for the good -- each time you step on
> a plane.
>

No mention of the 1950's Comet crashes which resulted in the installation of
the black box and the process of laying out the aircraft in a hangar to
determine why it crashed. Very important methinks.

"Ned" <nednot@aioe.org> wrote in message ...
> Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
> Popular Mechanics David Noland October 13, 2007
>

I would include the Avianca (ran out of gas) crash in Long Island, NY in the
list. Seems like there was a major rework to the ARTCC traffic desks, and an
explosion of procedural "gate holds", to prevent extended enroute holds.
That's my walkaway from that event.

> Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
> I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the
> drastic changes that resulted.

No, because those crashes were not unintentional. There was no failure
of technology or pilot error involved.

David Johnson

Craig Welch wrote:
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>> "Craig Welch" <craig@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
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>>> "aluckyguess" <no@me.com> said:
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>>>> Its is weird yo posted this I was looking for something today and this
>>>> came
>>>> up and I read it and now I see it again the same day. Wierd
>>> What is really wierd [sic.] is that someone with your lack of
>>> word-skill can get access to a computer when no-one's looking.
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>> Get a life. Looser. Go back to reading youre dictionary. Who really cares.
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> Heh. The irony of a newsgroup poster telling another newsgroup
> poster to get a life.
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> Communication is one of life's most important skills. You're
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And double the irony when you suggest someone read a dictionary and then
misspell loser. :-)

Matt

Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
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> And double the irony when you suggest someone read a dictionary and
> then misspell loser. :-)

And triple the irony when a carefully constructed bit of humour goes
sailing right over your head... wooooooooshhhh!


GB
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"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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> Kwyjibo wrote:
>> "Ned" <nednot@aioe.org> wrote in message news:fgbma5$o3v$2@aioe.org...
>>> Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
>>> Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007
>> <snip>
>>
>> Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
>> I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given
>> the drastic changes that resulted.
>>
>
> No, because the changes haven't resulted in any increase in safety.
>

What about Tennerife

"Graeme Hogan" <ghogan01@optusnet.com.au> wrote in
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> What about Tennerife

A greater emphasis on CRM.


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"Graeme Hogan" <ghogan01@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> "Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
> news:472972aa$0$32420$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> Kwyjibo wrote:
>>> "Ned" <nednot@aioe.org> wrote in message news:fgbma5$o3v$2@aioe.org...
>>>> Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
>>>> Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
>>> I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given
>>> the drastic changes that resulted.
>>>
>>
>> No, because the changes haven't resulted in any increase in safety.
>>
>
> What about Tennerife

What was the significant inventions made to aviation to prevent this
happening again?

"wb" <wb@hunterrail.com> wrote in news:4730ff6a$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au:
> What was the significant inventions made to aviation to prevent this
> happening again?

<slaps forehead>... what is this, Groundhog Day or something?


GB
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Sylvia Else said the following on 7/11/2007 2:32 PM:

> The remaining changes, such as preventing people from taking knitting
> needles on board, are a stable-door closing reaction that has not done
> anything to improve safety, exactly because of the change in passenger
> behaviour.

I think the term is security theatre