Water Tax?

"BeaForoni" <BeaForoni@msn.com> wrote:
> I am an infrequent flyer. Once a year for vacations. I just
> came back from vacation and I don't think I will fly again
> for many years.... I don't need the airline thing and they
> acted as if they didn't need me. So, it will be a win-win
> situation for all concerned.

Hey, whatever floats your boat. I will ponder your troubles
on my trip to the Greek isles this year. Or maybe not. :-)

On May 23, 11:57 am, NotABushSupporter <u...@not.here> wrote:
> Tchiowa wrote:
>
> >> The whole experience was so tiring and humiliating. First is the joke
> >>of an inspection. Going through inspection I placed my BIC lighter in
> >>the change tray along with my jewelry, my keys and my shoes. I then
> >>went through the metal detector and then the puffer. For this I stood
> >>in line for nearly twenty minutes and at the end I still had my
> >>lighter. Same on the return flight.
>
> > I'll bet the people who were on the 4 airplanes on 9/11 wish they had
> > all gone through that.
>
> Why? Box cutters were a permitted carry on item on 9/11.
> 9/11 had nothing to do with removing shoes.

That's right. And the dance the OP was complaining about with shoes
and everything else wasn't in place then, either. That's the point.
Had the passengers on 9/11 gone through the same security screening as
we do now then the box cutters would have been found and not allowed.

Tchiowa wrote:

> That's right. And the dance the OP was complaining about with shoes
> and everything else wasn't in place then, either. That's the point.
> Had the passengers on 9/11 gone through the same security screening as
> we do now then the box cutters would have been found and not allowed.

Err, no. They wouldn't have attempted to take box cutters on board. They
would have used some other strategy.

--
Craig

Miguel Cruz wrote:

> Many people seem to think that water that comes in a plastic bottle is
> somehow better than normal water, and so will pay more money for it.

The Coke and Pepsi bottled water (I think one of them is called Dassani)
is nothing more than the filtered tap water they use to make
Coke/Pepsi. They pour in into bottles without adding carbonation or the
syrup for coke/pepsi.

However, when you stay away from those brands, you get real "spring
water" which is taken from a well or a real spring.


If you are ever at Weissenburg in Switzerland (between Spiez and
Gstaad), they have excellent spring water that is naturally carbonated.

On May 23, 2:04 pm, Craig Welch <c...@pacific.net.sg> wrote:
> Tchiowa wrote:
> > That's right. And the dance the OP was complaining about with shoes
> > and everything else wasn't in place then, either. That's the point.
> > Had the passengers on 9/11 gone through the same security screening as
> > we do now then the box cutters would have been found and not allowed.
>
> Err, no. They wouldn't have attempted to take box cutters on board. They
> would have used some other strategy.

And they may or may not have succeeded. But the plot as executed would
likely have failed.

The screening isn't because the airports are bored and have spare
people lying around needing something to do. It is in response to
threats and actual events. Whining about being inconvenienced in this
case is kind of juvenile.

Tchiowa wrote:

> On May 23, 2:04 pm, Craig Welch <c...@pacific.net.sg> wrote:
>> Tchiowa wrote:

>>> That's right. And the dance the OP was complaining about with shoes
>>> and everything else wasn't in place then, either. That's the point.
>>> Had the passengers on 9/11 gone through the same security screening as
>>> we do now then the box cutters would have been found and not allowed.

>> Err, no. They wouldn't have attempted to take box cutters on board. They
>> would have used some other strategy.

> And they may or may not have succeeded. But the plot as executed would
> likely have failed.

For different reasons. People on board will now react differently.

> The screening isn't because the airports are bored and have spare
> people lying around needing something to do. It is in response to
> threats and actual events. Whining about being inconvenienced in this
> case is kind of juvenile.

The screening is so that Governments can show people that they're doing
something. Never mind that it's not effective, that it's all show. It
helps support the bogus notion of a 'war on terror', and other clichés.

As others have pointed out, there are plenty of makeshift weapons
available on aeroplanes that are *not* screened. Chopsticks, bottles,
pens ... as well as carving knives used to prepare meals, and so on.

The lunacy is evident when a pilot, for example, can't take his Swiss
Army Knife on board. Yet right behind his seat is a crash axe.

--
Craig

NotABushSupporter wrote:

> Miguel Cruz wrote:
>
>> NotABushSupporter <user@not.here> wrote:
>>
>>> If you could really get "as much as you want", why would the airline
>>> need to sell bottles?
>>
>>
>>
>> They don't "need" to; they do it because it makes money.
>>
>> Many people seem to think that water that comes in a plastic bottle is
>> somehow better than normal water, and so will pay more money for it.
>
>
> They sell it on the same flights where the flight attendants pour
> bottled water into cups. However, often the call button is ignored in Y
> class.

You need to walk about a bit anyway. Drop by the galley.