great tips for jet-setter wannabes (like me!)

chilly8@m wrote:
[snip]
> I know, from haveing been to North Korea to cover a couple of figure
> skating events, since 2001, that I must travel on my Australian
> passport when I go, to avoid both restrictions on American travel to
> North Korea imposed by both the United States and North Korean
> governments. North Korea does not have problems with dual nationals who
> travel on their other passport, and the restrictions on using Air
> Koryo, or staying in the Hotel Koryo do not apply when I travel to the
> DPRK using my Australian passport.
[snip]

It should be notice that this is bad legal advice. The US
government
considers it illegal for US passport holders to violate US travel
restrictions
regardless of what other passports one holds. As far as the US
Attorney's Office is concerned, you will be violating the law and
subject
to penalties. Rarely will happen if you don't make a big issue out
of, but as legal advice goes, you shouldn't do it.

glenn P wrote:
> <oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote in message
> news:1158248161.982165.323340@k70g2000cwa. o...
> > It should be notice that this is bad legal advice. The US
> > government
> > considers it illegal for US passport holders to violate US travel
> > restrictions
> > regardless of what other passports one holds. As far as the US
> > Attorney's Office is concerned, you will be violating the law and
> > subject
> > to penalties. Rarely will happen if you don't make a big issue out
> > of, but as legal advice goes, you shouldn't do it.
> >
> As Jackie Chiles would say, that statement is outrageous, egregious &
> preposterous!
>
> Holding a US passport is not a contract to agree to any travel restrictions.

Holding a US passport means you are a US citizen and subject to its
laws. Some of those laws concern taxes that US citzens must pay
while living abroad. Others concern travel regardless of point of
origin.

> Once you leave the US on another passport, you are subject to the laws of
> wherever you land.
[snip]

As well as the laws of the US.

<oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote in message
news:1158265210.839221.110240@b28g2000cwb. o...
>
> glenn P wrote:
>> <oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote in message
>> news:1158248161.982165.323340@k70g2000cwa. o...
>> > It should be notice that this is bad legal advice. The US
>> > government
>> > considers it illegal for US passport holders to violate US travel
>> > restrictions
>> > regardless of what other passports one holds. As far as the US
>> > Attorney's Office is concerned, you will be violating the law and
>> > subject
>> > to penalties. Rarely will happen if you don't make a big issue out
>> > of, but as legal advice goes, you shouldn't do it.
>> >
>> As Jackie Chiles would say, that statement is outrageous, egregious &
>> preposterous!
>>
>> Holding a US passport is not a contract to agree to any travel
>> restrictions.
>
> Holding a US passport means you are a US citizen and subject to its
> laws. Some of those laws concern taxes that US citzens must pay
> while living abroad. Others concern travel regardless of point of
> origin.
>
>> Once you leave the US on another passport, you are subject to the laws of
>> wherever you land.
> [snip]
>
> As well as the laws of the US.
>

Remember, I'm talking about travel restrictions, not laws. You are
misinterpreting my response.

glenn P wrote:
> As Jackie Chiles would say, that statement is outrageous, egregious &
> preposterous!
>
> Holding a US passport is not a contract to agree to any travel restrictions.
> Once you leave the US on another passport, you are subject to the laws of
> wherever you land. Even US passport holders can obtain a North Korean
> visa....

If you're an American citizen you are subject to American travel
restrictions.

When going to North Korea or Cuba, just make sure they don't stamp your
passport.
And don't make a big deal at the airport or on the airline about going
there. If you did not do anythng wrong and just did a sight seeing tour,
who cares....nothing is wrong.

Its when people get bragging and making a fuss they get caught and have
alot of explaining to do.

Chuck