Airliner fakes emergency so passengers can watch soccer game

George Patterson wrote:
> Well, here in the States, it would probably get a suspension with
> possible job loss. In Brazil, who knows? They may shoot 'em down there.

I don't know Brazil in particular, but in any other country
who understands football (i.e., called soccer in USA), I doubt
they'll make a fuss about it (besides congratulating the crew
for its resourcefulness) :-)

--Sylvain

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:54:28 -0400, "Charles"
<bigbadstorm@prodigy.sux> wrote in
<OulYe.208$0c3.200@bignews5.>::

>I'd hate to fly with a pilot who declared an emergency just so he could run
>home to watch his football game.


How would you feel about a pilot who _failed_ to declare an emergency,
and continued his transcontinental transatlantic flight with full fuel
and one engine shutdown?

March 1, 2005
By Eric Malnic and Hector Becerra, Times Staff Writers


Jet Flies On With One Engine Out
Despite LAX takeoff malfunction, British Airways pilot continues
nonstop trip to London. The 747 lands safely but short of its
destination.

A British Airways jumbo jet lost power in an engine on takeoff
from Los Angeles International Airport last month, but the pilot
elected not to make an emergency landing for repairs, deciding
instead to continue the 5,400-mile, transatlantic flight to London
on the remaining three engines, officials said Monday.

Because of unfavorable winds and inefficiencies resulting from the
engine loss, the Boeing 747-400 burned more fuel than anticipated,
and the pilot was forced to cut the nonstop flight short and land
in Manchester, England, the airline said. ...

Sylvain wrote:

> George Patterson wrote:
>
>> Well, here in the States, it would probably get a suspension with
>> possible job loss. In Brazil, who knows? They may shoot 'em down there.
>
>
> I don't know Brazil in particular, but in any other country
> who understands football (i.e., called soccer in USA), I doubt
> they'll make a fuss about it (besides congratulating the crew
> for its resourcefulness) :-)
>
> --Sylvain


The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to
investigate the situation.

"Larry Dighera"- What is a plethora?
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:54:28 -0400, "Charles"
> <bigbadstorm@prodigy.sux> wrote in
> <OulYe.208$0c3.200@bignews5.>::
>
> >I'd hate to fly with a pilot who declared an emergency just so he could run
> >home to watch his football game.
>
>
> How would you feel about a pilot who _failed_ to declare an emergency,
> and continued his transcontinental transatlantic flight with full fuel
> and one engine shutdown?
>
> March 1, 2005
> By Eric Malnic and Hector Becerra, Times Staff Writers
>
>
> Jet Flies On With One Engine Out
> Despite LAX takeoff malfunction, British Airways pilot continues
> nonstop trip to London. The 747 lands safely but short of its
> destination.
>
> A British Airways jumbo jet lost power in an engine on takeoff
> from Los Angeles International Airport last month, but the pilot
> elected not to make an emergency landing for repairs, deciding
> instead to continue the 5,400-mile, transatlantic flight to London
> on the remaining three engines, officials said Monday.
>
> Because of unfavorable winds and inefficiencies resulting from the
> engine loss, the Boeing 747-400 burned more fuel than anticipated,
> and the pilot was forced to cut the nonstop flight short and land
> in Manchester, England, the airline said. ...

Hey, they didn't crash, right? That thing is designed to fly with 3
engines out. And they made it to Great Britain, that's close enough.

--
TO
Turn those machines back on! TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK OOONNN!!

George Patterson wrote:

> Frank F. Matthews wrote:
>
>> The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to
>> investigate the situation.
>
>
> You could do worse than be stuck in Brazil for a few weeks.
>
> George Patterson
> Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
> use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.


That could well depend on the funds they have available. And how
cooperative the local hotels are. They are not in Lima.

"George Patterson" <grpphoto@> wrote in message
news:fDpYe.19961$Yu2.11527@trnddc02...
> Frank F. Matthews wrote:
>
>> The actual penalty may simply be the weeks that it may take to
>> investigate the situation.
>
> You could do worse than be stuck in Brazil for a few weeks.
>
Only if it's just before Lent.

Charles wrote:
>
> Do the aviation authorities have some sort of disciplinary action plan for
> cases like that?
>

What regulation are they breaking? The PIC is final authority on
whether an emergency exists. Declaring a fake emergency might be
illegal under local laws, though, similar to what the prosecution would
be for pulling a fire alarm needlessly. The pilots' employer might
discipline them. But the aviation authorities probably would not be
able to do anything.

cjcampbell wrote:

> Charles wrote:
>
>>Do the aviation authorities have some sort of disciplinary action plan for
>>cases like that?
>>
>
>
> What regulation are they breaking? The PIC is final authority on
> whether an emergency exists. Declaring a fake emergency might be
> illegal under local laws, though, similar to what the prosecution would
> be for pulling a fire alarm needlessly. The pilots' employer might
> discipline them. But the aviation authorities probably would not be
> able to do anything.
>


I'll wager that they could hold him around for a few months while they
'investigated' the incident. It could cut into his income.