Round The World Fare - Rules & Restrictions

Both the Star Alliance and One World web sites mention their respective
Round the World possibilities but neither gives much idea to the rules that
apply.

Is this information available to the paying public i.e. me before I tackle
the travel agents?

It is apparently complicated enough that they will not even trust their
own agents. At least Air Canada & United maintain separate personnel to
manage RW ticketing. If it will help the first rule you hit is that the
ticketing must be done by the first airline you will use for a trans
oceanic flight.

Ian wrote:

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:06:01 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
<frankfmatthews@houston.> wrote:

>It is apparently complicated enough that they will not even trust their
>own agents. At least Air Canada & United maintain separate personnel to
>manage RW ticketing. If it will help the first rule you hit is that the
>ticketing must be done by the first airline you will use for a trans
>oceanic flight.
>
That last sentence is not true in the case of Star Alliance. NZ were
happy to book and ticket my rtw fare even though they were not the
carrier on the first trans oceanic flight.
--==++AJC++==--

"AJC" <ajc@wxs.nl> wrote in message
news:fm5ji09bll3e3mme2nckkg42jn1r3phq0t@...
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:06:01 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
> <frankfmatthews@houston.> wrote:
>>
>>If it will help the first rule you hit is that the
>>ticketing must be done by the first airline you will use for a trans
>>oceanic flight.
>
>That last sentence is not true in the case of Star Alliance. NZ were
>happy to book and ticket my rtw fare even though they were not the
>carrier on the first trans oceanic flight.

Spot on AJC. Any carrier that is a part of the itinerary chosen
can ticket. (Or an agent can use the paper of any carrier
on the itinerary to ticket).

I've had exposure to both * and ow products and I find the *
product a better one for the most part. Allows more segments,
doesn't have backtracking limitations apart from crossing
the Atlantic and Pacific only once as well as only one crossing
between "Europe" and "Asia" and has a lot more options
open to you due to it's coverage/carrier depth.
(Sth America and Africa can get tricky with * though.)

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:17:22 +1000, "Al Bennett" <aljay@zip.com.au>
wrote:

>
>"AJC" <ajc@wxs.nl> wrote in message
>news:fm5ji09bll3e3mme2nckkg42jn1r3phq0t@.. .
>> On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:06:01 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
>> <frankfmatthews@houston.> wrote:
>>>
>>>If it will help the first rule you hit is that the
>>>ticketing must be done by the first airline you will use for a trans
>>>oceanic flight.
>>
>>That last sentence is not true in the case of Star Alliance. NZ were
>>happy to book and ticket my rtw fare even though they were not the
>>carrier on the first trans oceanic flight.
>
>Spot on AJC. Any carrier that is a part of the itinerary chosen
>can ticket. (Or an agent can use the paper of any carrier
>on the itinerary to ticket).
>
>I've had exposure to both * and ow products and I find the *
>product a better one for the most part. Allows more segments,
>doesn't have backtracking limitations apart from crossing
>the Atlantic and Pacific only once as well as only one crossing
>between "Europe" and "Asia" and has a lot more options
>open to you due to it's coverage/carrier depth.
>(Sth America and Africa can get tricky with * though.)
>

Yes, the problem with Star, and the reason I most likely will use ow
next time is the latter's possibilities for routing AUS/NZ-South
America-Europe. As for the ticketing, I used NZ simply because their
reservations and ticketing people were much more helpful than those of
SQ, the carrier for the first 2 sectors.
--==++AJC++==--

Al Bennett wrote:

> "AJC" <ajc@wxs.nl> wrote in message
> news:fm5ji09bll3e3mme2nckkg42jn1r3phq0t@...
>
>>On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:06:01 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
>><frankfmatthews@houston.> wrote:
>>
>>>If it will help the first rule you hit is that the
>>>ticketing must be done by the first airline you will use for a trans
>>>oceanic flight.
>>
>>That last sentence is not true in the case of Star Alliance. NZ were
>>happy to book and ticket my rtw fare even though they were not the
>>carrier on the first trans oceanic flight.
>
>
> Spot on AJC. Any carrier that is a part of the itinerary chosen
> can ticket. (Or an agent can use the paper of any carrier
> on the itinerary to ticket).
>
> I've had exposure to both * and ow products and I find the *
> product a better one for the most part. Allows more segments,
> doesn't have backtracking limitations apart from crossing
> the Atlantic and Pacific only once as well as only one crossing
> between "Europe" and "Asia" and has a lot more options
> open to you due to it's coverage/carrier depth.
> (Sth America and Africa can get tricky with * though.)

Interesting. It was 4 years ago so perhaps things have changed. At the
time I started with Air Canada's RWT desk. When we got into the
itinerary they insisted on passing me off to United since my trans
Pacific stint was on UA with a later trans Atlantic flight on AC. They
insisted that UA had to do the ticketing.

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 15:42:44 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
<frankfmatthews@houston.> wrote:

>Al Bennett wrote:
>
>> "AJC" <ajc@wxs.nl> wrote in message
>> news:fm5ji09bll3e3mme2nckkg42jn1r3phq0t@...
>>
>>>On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:06:01 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
>>><frankfmatthews@houston.> wrote:
>>>
>>>>If it will help the first rule you hit is that the
>>>>ticketing must be done by the first airline you will use for a trans
>>>>oceanic flight.
>>>
>>>That last sentence is not true in the case of Star Alliance. NZ were
>>>happy to book and ticket my rtw fare even though they were not the
>>>carrier on the first trans oceanic flight.
>>
>>
>> Spot on AJC. Any carrier that is a part of the itinerary chosen
>> can ticket. (Or an agent can use the paper of any carrier
>> on the itinerary to ticket).
>>
>> I've had exposure to both * and ow products and I find the *
>> product a better one for the most part. Allows more segments,
>> doesn't have backtracking limitations apart from crossing
>> the Atlantic and Pacific only once as well as only one crossing
>> between "Europe" and "Asia" and has a lot more options
>> open to you due to it's coverage/carrier depth.
>> (Sth America and Africa can get tricky with * though.)
>
>Interesting. It was 4 years ago so perhaps things have changed. At the
>time I started with Air Canada's RWT desk. When we got into the
>itinerary they insisted on passing me off to United since my trans
>Pacific stint was on UA with a later trans Atlantic flight on AC. They
>insisted that UA had to do the ticketing.


I think the key is where Al says any of the carriers 'can' ticket,
that doesn't mean they have to, or that they will do. Maybe AC were
just being awkward.
--==++AJC++==--