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Old 3rd August 2004, 04:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello
I live in Toronto, and was visiting New Mexico in April (a truly lovely
place)
Checking in on the way home, noticed at the United desk there was a
sign stating that anyone carrying a gun must report it to the clerk
when they are checking in and let him/her know if one is carrying
bullets. Just curious about how common this is - e.g. is this a
regional phenonema? Was that sign e.g. 25 yrs old and someone had
forgotten to take it away? Would love to know more about the regularity
of ppl making such confessions and how it is dealt with by the airline.
Thanks v much, Claire

 
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Old 3rd August 2004, 04:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"claire m" <majorclairem> wrote in message
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> Hello
> I live in Toronto, and was visiting New Mexico in April (a truly lovely
> place)
> Checking in on the way home, noticed at the United desk there was a
> sign stating that anyone carrying a gun must report it to the clerk
> when they are checking in and let him/her know if one is carrying
> bullets. Just curious about how common this is - e.g. is this a
> regional phenonema? Was that sign e.g. 25 yrs old and someone had
> forgotten to take it away? Would love to know more about the regularity
> of ppl making such confessions and how it is dealt with by the airline.
> Thanks v much, Claire


I believe you can transport firearms in checked luggage (obviously not in
carry on). Ammunition is, I suspect, treated as an explosive, which is not
allowed on commercial aircraft.


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Old 3rd August 2004, 05:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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claire m wrote:
>
> Would love to know more about the regularity of ppl making such
> confessions and how it is dealt with by the airline.


If you are wondering about the legality of checking firearms, here is a
quote from the United Airlines web site that should answer your
question:

=========================================
Firearms

Federal regulations require that firearms in checked baggage or in their
own shipping case be unloaded and declared. Firearms are not allowed in
carry-on bags. Firearms in checked baggage must be packed in a locked
hard-sided bag or gun case. A maximum of 11 lbs. of small arms
ammunition is allowed in checked luggage in the original manufacturer's
box or securely packed in a fiber, wood, or metal box to prevent
movement of cartridges.
=========================================

Other airlines have similar policies. It is how sportsmen can carry
their weapons when they go on hunting trips.

In case you think this is a US-only rule, here are the pertinent
Canadian regulations from the Transport Canada web site:

=========================================
19. A person may carry or have access to an unloaded firearm at an
aerodrome for the purpose of transporting it by air as checked baggage
or accepted cargo.

20. A person may tender, to an air carrier for subsequent acceptance and
transportation, baggage or cargo that contains an unloaded firearm if
the person declares to the air carrier that the firearm is unloaded.

21. An air carrier may allow a person who has complied with section 20
to transport checked baggage or accepted cargo that contains an unloaded
firearm.
=========================================
 
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Old 3rd August 2004, 06:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 21:54:11 GMT, James Robinson <wascana@212.com>
wrote:

>claire m wrote:
>>
>> Would love to know more about the regularity of ppl making such
>> confessions and how it is dealt with by the airline.

>
>If you are wondering about the legality of checking firearms, here is a
>quote from the United Airlines web site that should answer your
>question:
>
>=========================================
>Firearms
>
>Federal regulations require that firearms in checked baggage or in their
>own shipping case be unloaded and declared. Firearms are not allowed in
>carry-on bags. Firearms in checked baggage must be packed in a locked
>hard-sided bag or gun case. A maximum of 11 lbs. of small arms
>ammunition is allowed in checked luggage in the original manufacturer's
>box or securely packed in a fiber, wood, or metal box to prevent
>movement of cartridges.
>=========================================
>
>Other airlines have similar policies. It is how sportsmen can carry
>their weapons when they go on hunting trips.



I love the use of the word 'sportsmen' to describe those who kill
animals for fun. <irony> for the USians amongst you.
 
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Old 3rd August 2004, 09:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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<lysander@uk2.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 21:54:11 GMT, James Robinson <wascana@212.com>
> wrote:
>
> >claire m wrote:
> >>
> >> Would love to know more about the regularity of ppl making such
> >> confessions and how it is dealt with by the airline.

> >
> >If you are wondering about the legality of checking firearms, here is a
> >quote from the United Airlines web site that should answer your
> >question:
> >
> >=========================================
> >Firearms
> >
> >Federal regulations require that firearms in checked baggage or in their
> >own shipping case be unloaded and declared. Firearms are not allowed in
> >carry-on bags. Firearms in checked baggage must be packed in a locked
> >hard-sided bag or gun case. A maximum of 11 lbs. of small arms
> >ammunition is allowed in checked luggage in the original manufacturer's
> >box or securely packed in a fiber, wood, or metal box to prevent
> >movement of cartridges.
> >=========================================
> >
> >Other airlines have similar policies. It is how sportsmen can carry
> >their weapons when they go on hunting trips.

>
>
> I love the use of the word 'sportsmen' to describe those who kill
> animals for fun. <irony> for the USians amongst you.


It's so much more humane and sporting to chase down and kill foxes with
vicious dogs trained by their horsebound owners.

US and Canadian hunters typically eat their kill. Do Brits consume fox meat?


 
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Old 3rd August 2004, 09:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Bob Chipeska wrote:

> <lysander@uk2.net> wrote in message
> news:ri30h0lc0selp37me1trfrhp4aimtdk5be@...
> >

> It's so much more humane and sporting to chase down and kill foxes with
> vicious dogs trained by their horsebound owners.
>
> US and Canadian hunters typically eat their kill. Do Brits consume fox meat?
>


It depends on the skill of the dog.
If the dog doesn't get them the fox, then they end up consuming dog meat.

 
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Old 4th August 2004, 03:13 AM   #7 (permalink)
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"Really Me" <reallyme@> wrote in message
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> Bob Chipeska wrote:
>
> > <lysander@uk2.net> wrote in message
> > news:ri30h0lc0selp37me1trfrhp4aimtdk5be@...
> > >

> > It's so much more humane and sporting to chase down and kill foxes with
> > vicious dogs trained by their horsebound owners.
> >
> > US and Canadian hunters typically eat their kill. Do Brits consume fox

meat?

No, they're vermin

> It depends on the skill of the dog.
> If the dog doesn't get them the fox, then they end up consuming dog meat.


Hound, not dog!



 
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Old 4th August 2004, 03:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Mike O'sullivan wrote:

> "Really Me" <reallyme@> wrote in message
> news:M5XPc.33$Eq2.12@newssvr27.news....
>
>>Bob Chipeska wrote:
>>
>>
>>><lysander@uk2.net> wrote in message
>>>news:ri30h0lc0selp37me1trfrhp4aimtdk5be@ ...
>>>
>>>It's so much more humane and sporting to chase down and kill foxes with
>>>vicious dogs trained by their horsebound owners.
>>>
>>>US and Canadian hunters typically eat their kill. Do Brits consume fox

>
> meat?
>
> No, they're vermin
>
>
>>It depends on the skill of the dog.
>>If the dog doesn't get them the fox, then they end up consuming dog meat.

>
>
> Hound, not dog!
>


Not Hound Dog?

 
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Old 4th August 2004, 05:21 AM   #9 (permalink)
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"claire m" <majorclairem> wrote in message
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> Hello
> I live in Toronto, and was visiting New Mexico in April (a truly lovely
> place)
> Checking in on the way home, noticed at the United desk there was a
> sign stating that anyone carrying a gun must report it to the clerk
> when they are checking in and let him/her know if one is carrying
> bullets. Just curious about how common this is - e.g. is this a
> regional phenonema? Was that sign e.g. 25 yrs old and someone had
> forgotten to take it away? Would love to know more about the regularity
> of ppl making such confessions and how it is dealt with by the airline.
> Thanks v much, Claire
>


After checking in at DFW a few weeks ago I (a brit) took my luggage to the
TSA guys, where I was asked if I had a loaded firearm in my luggage, I was
about to give a witty response when I thought better of it and simply said
no.


 
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Old 4th August 2004, 01:24 PM   #10 (permalink)
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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 07:13:50 +0000 (UTC), "Mike O'sullivan"
<mike.osullivan3@nowhere.com> wrote:

>
>"Really Me" <reallyme@> wrote in message
>news:M5XPc.33$Eq2.12@newssvr27.news... .
>> Bob Chipeska wrote:
>>
>> > <lysander@uk2.net> wrote in message
>> > news:ri30h0lc0selp37me1trfrhp4aimtdk5be@...
>> > >
>> > It's so much more humane and sporting to chase down and kill foxes with
>> > vicious dogs trained by their horsebound owners.
>> >
>> > US and Canadian hunters typically eat their kill. Do Brits consume fox

>meat?
>
>No, they're vermin
>
>> It depends on the skill of the dog.
>> If the dog doesn't get them the fox, then they end up consuming dog meat.

>
>Hound, not dog!


It's even more humane not to kill them at all. Do they not have
foodshops in the US & Canada?
 
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