GPS as carry-on permissable?

I have a hand held GPS. I'll be flying from Denver Co to McAllen Tx
soon.

I want to carry the GPS in my pocket, or put it in my carry on bag.

Will the airlines have a problem with that? I have no intention of
using it while on board the aircraft.

Is there any danger to the GPS unit....from x-ray machines or
whatever? What exactly would be the best way to carry this item thru
security? I don't want to damage the GPS, and I don't want to get any
security people excited.

Lee Carkenord

They will not have a problem with it, some will even let you use it once you
are above 10,000 feet, but unless you are in a window seat it probably won't
work that well.

Security may swab it, but even that isn't all that common.




"Lee Carkenord" <carkenord@juno.com> wrote in message
news:4346b55e.0402041342.45482bb6@c om...
> I have a hand held GPS. I'll be flying from Denver Co to McAllen Tx
> soon.
>
> I want to carry the GPS in my pocket, or put it in my carry on bag.
>
> Will the airlines have a problem with that? I have no intention of
> using it while on board the aircraft.
>
> Is there any danger to the GPS unit....from x-ray machines or
> whatever? What exactly would be the best way to carry this item thru
> security? I don't want to damage the GPS, and I don't want to get any
> security people excited.
>
> Lee Carkenord

In article <4346b55e.0402041342.45482bb6@com >,
carkenord@juno.com (Lee Carkenord) wrote:

> I have a hand held GPS. I'll be flying from Denver Co to McAllen Tx
> soon.
>
> I want to carry the GPS in my pocket, or put it in my carry on bag.
>
> Will the airlines have a problem with that? I have no intention of
> using it while on board the aircraft.

You would rather accept the advise of complete strangers than
call your airline to ask if you will be permitted to carry on
your valuable GPS? Strange.

> Is there any danger to the GPS unit....from x-ray machines or
> whatever? What exactly would be the best way to carry this item thru
> security? I don't want to damage the GPS, and I don't want to get any
> security people excited.

No.

Why would you call the airline? The airline has no control on what you
carry on board. The TSA has control of what you carry on board. The airline
never looks at what you are carrying on. They don't care. If the TSA says
no, then it's no. If they say yes, then it's yes.

And yes, I would trust the advice of complete strangers, many like myself
who have carried them on then some minimum wage earner at the other end of
an 800 number who doesn't care, because it's not up to the airline what you
can carry on or not. They will tell you anything to get you off the phone.




"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@> wrote in message
news:srhi-59DFF2.20271005022004@news-60.giganews.com...

>
> You would rather accept the advise of complete strangers than
> call your airline to ask if you will be permitted to carry on
> your valuable GPS? Strange.
>

Then, again you are wrong. The airline has no control what you carry on,
the TSA does. Unless it's a pet elephant, or something obvious, they won't
even know, as they don't care.

Using it in flight, which was not the question, is up to the airline (and
United does allow the use of them above 10,000 feet). Carrying it on is
not.




"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@> wrote in message
news:srhi-65341C.07505007022004@news-60.giganews.com...
> In article <Hso5KM.1IC@news.boeing.com>,
> "DALing" <daling43[delete]-at-m> wrote:
>
> > gee... maybe it's because we have actually DONE it? BTW - The issue,
> > actually isn't CARRYING it, it's USING it in flight. They flat don't
CARE
> > if you have it (and NO REASON TO EITHER)
>
> My response was not to you, it was to the original poster who clearly
> asked "is it okay to carry on a GPS" or something to that effect. He
> did not ask just about using the GPS in flight. I still maintain that
> the best source of what can or cannot be carried on a flight, as well
> as used in-flight, is the airline itself, not the court of Usenet
> opinion.

On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 00:34:08 +0200, Binyamin Dissen
<postingid@dissensoftware.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 16:18:37 GMT "Mike Cordelli" <mike@cordelli.com> wrote:
>
>:>Why would you call the airline? The airline has no control on what you
>:>carry on board. The TSA has control of what you carry on board. The airline
>:>never looks at what you are carrying on. They don't care. If the TSA says
>:>no, then it's no. If they say yes, then it's yes.
>
>Quite wrong.
>
>The TSA can only prevent. It can allow you to take whatever past the screening
>area but has no ability to force the airline to load it.
>
>The airline can refuse to allow an object in the cabin (and probably in the
>baggage as well).
>
>:>And yes, I would trust the advice of complete strangers, many like myself
>
>Yes, you have been proven well educated and trust worthy.

Can the same be said about you?

Mike Cordelli wrote:

> Using it in flight, which was not the question, is up to the
> airline (and United does allow the use of them above 10,000
> feet). Carrying it on is not.

I've been using a Garmin Geko on the last dozen or so flights I've
been on (cross-continent, east-coast, etc). I have it on some times
while taxiing and taking off and during landing. Kinda kool to see
the take-off and landing speeds, rate of climb, approach patterns,
etc. You do need a window seat for this.

I've also been seeing what sort of FM reception I can get. It's
surprising some times how long (and how well) you can pick up stations
at 35k feet. I'm bringing a battery-powered (palm-sized) color LCD TV
with me next time...

Thought you were not alowed to use Radios, TV's when off the ground. That
used to be the rules as I once got told to turn a radio off in flight many
years ago (using headphones).

Older Radios and TV's can interfere with the electronics in modern
areoplanes. Don't know about newer radios, TV's and GPS's but probably the
same.

Interesting though that at I times fly on a Kingair B200 (8 seater twin
engine) and the pilot does not mind mobile phones being used. Does not
interfere with anything that he has on board.

SteveS

"Fly Guy" <Fly@Guy.com> wrote in message news:411AC753.3DC19405@Guy.com...
> Mike Cordelli wrote:
>
> > Using it in flight, which was not the question, is up to the
> > airline (and United does allow the use of them above 10,000
> > feet). Carrying it on is not.
>
> I've been using a Garmin Geko on the last dozen or so flights I've
> been on (cross-continent, east-coast, etc). I have it on some times
> while taxiing and taking off and during landing. Kinda kool to see
> the take-off and landing speeds, rate of climb, approach patterns,
> etc. You do need a window seat for this.
>
> I've also been seeing what sort of FM reception I can get. It's
> surprising some times how long (and how well) you can pick up stations
> at 35k feet. I'm bringing a battery-powered (palm-sized) color LCD TV
> with me next time...

> But the rule is to turn things off at certain times. My question is, What
> is so important, that some people can't follow the rule? Mostly on the Cell
> Phone Issue, People are obsessed!! The tire smoke hasn't cleared from the

One thing nice about the ban is that it actually provides a
few moments of peace on the aircraft. Anyone taken an Amtrak
lately? It is non-stop cell phone conversations from WAS-NYP,
even if you are in F on the Acela Express!

AC wrote:

> You obviously have no idea of the operational requirements of a
> modern jet.

And neither do you.

The fact is, if I'm allowed to use many different types of electronic
stuff when the plane is at cruise altitude (when arguably the plane is
or could be on auto-pilot and when the navigation systems and avionics
on the plane are MOST vulnerable to interference that could cause the
plane to go off-course) then why are those SAME electronic items
unsafe turing taxi/takeoff/landing (TTL) ?

Why are those same devices magically "safe to use" when the bell rings
at 10,000 feet? (when the plane is still close to the airport and
usually doing lots of manouvers and in lots of communication with the
control tower) ???

What if those rules are in place because the insurance companies want
them in place - and what if their basis for such rules are not founded
in any engineering studies? What if those rules are in place because,
again, either the insurance companies or the FAA don't want the
attention of passengers to be diverted or occupied by their use of
electronic gadgets during TTL?

Those are reasons that have NOTHING to do with the ability of
electronic gadgets to actually interfere with the safe operation of
the avionics or flight control systems of a passenger jet.

Long gone are the days when a portable radio needed 12 "D" sized
batteries to operate. Electronic items today are very efficient in
how they use energy and they waste little of it as radio emissions.
Yes, with a big enough antenna and a sensitive receiver tuned
meticulously you can detect the emmissions from all sorts of devices.
But having special gear to specifically look for those emmissions is a
far cry from the avions installed on a plane.

If you want to argue with me that me listening to an FM radio (or MP3
player) via ear-buds is a safety risk to you because you have to climb
over me to get to the isle to get out of the plane if it crashes, then
fine, that's a point worth arguing. But if you claim my MP3 player is
going to cause the plane to veer out of control on the taxi-way while
it's putting along waiting to take off, then all you've got is
arm-waving that planes are built so incredible poorly as to be
vulnerable to such devices.

The fact is, we've all been conditioned by the likes of the airlines
and the FAA to believe their dire warnings that the use of electronic
devices is safe ONLY above 10,000 feet. They'd much rather have us
believe that the use of those devices below 10k feet is very dangerous
to the plane then for us to know the real reason why they don't want
us using them - which is (in their mind) to make for the most clean,
effective, and efficient de-planing as possible in the case of an
accident.