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Old 21st August 2004, 12:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Default GPS as carry-on permissable?

(1) No airplane has ever crashed or been seriously impaired by the use
of a GPS receiver, and there have been many people who used them
(including me once over S Dakota, until the stewardess told me to stow
it.)

(2) There IS one well documented case where cell phone usage on a
commercial airliner culminated in a crash, with loss of all hands.

[It's so tough to come up with an original idea on Usenet.]

 
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Old 21st August 2004, 04:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Default GPS as carry-on permissable?

(2) There IS one well documented case where cell phone usage on a
commercial airliner culminated in a crash, with loss of all hands.
UA 93, Somerset County PA, 11 Sept 2001

Somehow, I don't think that counts.
 
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Old 22nd August 2004, 11:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Default GPS as carry-on permissable?

I don't really want to argue this anymore, except that to state you are
using faulty logic.

This is the same logic used by those saying "I left my cell on in my handbag
all through that flight AND WE DIDNT EVEN CRASH".

You are assuming that the systems that MAY OR MAYNOT be affected by your
uncertified instrument were actually relied upon in a critical manner,
during a transition phase of flight. Odds were, they weren't, but keep
rolling the dice, fella.

GPS actually wasn't the thrust of the side-topic here, anyway. If I had to
choose a portable electronic item to not cause interference, I would go with
GPS (probably).
 
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Old 23rd August 2004, 12:05 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Default GPS as carry-on permissable?

Editorial Comment: As a rated commercial, multi-engine, instrument rated
pilot, I say "bull". Do you think for a minute you would have been allowed
to actually carry your cellphone onto the plane all these years if flipping
it on by accident would send the plane into a sharp left roll? Of course
not. The instruments onboard commerical aircraft are so well shielded and so
selective the only thing that is going to get to them is an EMP. The same
holds true for laptops. If the public percieves this potential laptop
abolishment to be based in safety--then collectively, what can we say?
However, if there is some other reason we are to potentially abolish laptops
it comes down to a further encroachment on our personal freedoms and I would
hope there would be an uproar about it. Of course, there never are uproars
about these sort of things as Americans are pretty passive about protecting
their eroding freedoms that others before have died to establish. Now, think
about the trillions of cumulative laptop "on" hours have already been logged
with no mishaps attributed to cellphones OR laptops, then you use your own
common sense to draw your own conclusion.

This makes me feel a lot safer, that a vertical busdriver "says BULL". Cool,
maybe he can tell NASA bull, and see if they care. If they do, they'll
probably ask for some evidence, I'll bet...
 
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