"tim....." <tims_new_home.uk> wrote in message
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> "Roland Perry" <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:siTatfJ4ChfIFAF0@perry.co.uk...
>> In message
>> <907bc1d3-2b3b-4a6e-a4aa-af8a4d5b23c1@25g2000hsx..com>, at
>> 07:09:55 on Wed, 16 Jul 2008, amoglesm remarked:
>>>The following, in particular have changed.
>>>
>>>- opening of CTRL shortens station to station journey time by Eurostar
>>>- opening of CTRL disentangles Eurostar paths from those of suburban
>>>electrics, meaning higher punctuality
>>>- air travel suffers from higher fuel prices
>>>
>>>How can we hope to tell which percentage of ridership increase is due
>>>to which of these factors? We can't. So how can we know where
>>>ridership would be today if the CTRL were to terminate at Waterloo? We
>>>can't.
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>> I wonder how many of those effects you list can possibly account for 190%
>> increase in passengers from Derby, other than the move to St Pancras.
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> Is that from 5 to 9?
5 to 14, surely?