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15th July 2008, 09:38 AM

On 15 Jul, 13:34, j.p.har...@talk21.com wrote:
> On 15 Jul, 13:12, Nodding Donkey <floridsalo...@m> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 15 Jul, 13:02, collybs <pe...@collybs.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > Advanced Tickets are available on TPE from Liverpool to Newcastle
>
> > > I have just tried on 23 September - the following are available
> > > depart at 0618 or 0822 - £22.
> > > Why they are not available on other trains is either because they have
> > > sold out or that the sevices are so popular they do not need to sell
> > > ap tickets.
>
> > > Peter
>
> > Just noticed they are available at the same time on the date I want to
> > travel (The 0618 is the only through train of the day BTW). Can't find
> > any advance tickets for the return leg, which negates any advantage
> > over a Saver. Also, this is a leisure trip so don't really want an
> > early start.
>
> > My problem is in the middle of the day I could buy an advance ticket
> > Liverpool - York, and then one on a York-Newcastle connection (whether
> > first TPE, NXEC or XC) - thus AP spaces are available, but the
> > Trainline won't connect them. Its up to me to look separately.
>
> Presumably the problem is that the legs don't match up, i.e. there
> will always be a faster connection from York northwards which doesn't
> have a quota for TPE advance tickets.
>
> Liverpool TPE trains generally go to Scarborough
> Newcastle TPE trains generally come from Manchester Airport
>
> Between the arrival of the Scarborough train at York and the departure
> of the slower TPE train to Newcastle, there is often an XC or NXEC
> train which messes the through reservations up.
>
> Using "via Thirsk" might get you a through TPE journey - it certainly
> gets me the 1422 on 12 August (the date tried earlier in the thread).
> "via Dewsbury" gets me the 1022, 1222, 1422, 1622, 1822 at varying
> prices and return journeys each hour.
>
> One of the other tricks is searching by "arrive by" instead of "leave
> after" as it often causes a different changing station.
>
> From previous threads, we have never got to to bottom of which quotas
> a train needs to accept other operators AP tickets (despite
> "simplification"). I notice that Southern's introduction of advance
> tickets continues to cause problems with through booking of AP
> tickets.
>
> Hope that helps
>
> Jonathan

Thanks, that makes sense now.

Is there any way they could programme the trainline to look for
advance tickets on both legs of a two leg journey, and then add the
prices? e.g. in this case changing at York is suggested by the
trainline, therefore how difficult would it be to quote a Liverpool-
York and a York-Newcastle fare?

15th July 2008, 09:38 AM	#10 (permalink)
Nodding Donkey Guest Posts: n/a Classified Rating: % ()	First TPE Advance tickets On 15 Jul, 13:34, j.p.har...@talk21.com wrote: > On 15 Jul, 13:12, Nodding Donkey <floridsalo...@m> wrote: > > > > > On 15 Jul, 13:02, collybs <pe...@collybs.co.uk> wrote: > > > > Advanced Tickets are available on TPE from Liverpool to Newcastle > > > > I have just tried on 23 September - the following are available > > > depart at 0618 or 0822 - £22. > > > Why they are not available on other trains is either because they have > > > sold out or that the sevices are so popular they do not need to sell > > > ap tickets. > > > > Peter > > > Just noticed they are available at the same time on the date I want to > > travel (The 0618 is the only through train of the day BTW). Can't find > > any advance tickets for the return leg, which negates any advantage > > over a Saver. Also, this is a leisure trip so don't really want an > > early start. > > > My problem is in the middle of the day I could buy an advance ticket > > Liverpool - York, and then one on a York-Newcastle connection (whether > > first TPE, NXEC or XC) - thus AP spaces are available, but the > > Trainline won't connect them. Its up to me to look separately. > > Presumably the problem is that the legs don't match up, i.e. there > will always be a faster connection from York northwards which doesn't > have a quota for TPE advance tickets. > > Liverpool TPE trains generally go to Scarborough > Newcastle TPE trains generally come from Manchester Airport > > Between the arrival of the Scarborough train at York and the departure > of the slower TPE train to Newcastle, there is often an XC or NXEC > train which messes the through reservations up. > > Using "via Thirsk" might get you a through TPE journey - it certainly > gets me the 1422 on 12 August (the date tried earlier in the thread). > "via Dewsbury" gets me the 1022, 1222, 1422, 1622, 1822 at varying > prices and return journeys each hour. > > One of the other tricks is searching by "arrive by" instead of "leave > after" as it often causes a different changing station. > > From previous threads, we have never got to to bottom of which quotas > a train needs to accept other operators AP tickets (despite > "simplification"). I notice that Southern's introduction of advance > tickets continues to cause problems with through booking of AP > tickets. > > Hope that helps > > Jonathan Thanks, that makes sense now. Is there any way they could programme the trainline to look for advance tickets on both legs of a two leg journey, and then add the prices? e.g. in this case changing at York is suggested by the trainline, therefore how difficult would it be to quote a Liverpool- York and a York-Newcastle fare?