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Old 12th May 2008, 09:22 AM   #16 (permalink)
Charlie Hulme
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Default Virgin to end North Wales fares loophole

Neil Williams wrote:
> Charlie Hulme wrote:
>
>> Depends on how these single fares were calculated! They'd have to be
>> very much lower for local journeys than they are now to replace
>> Cheap Day Returns.

>
> I see no reason why, assuming evening peak restrictions or an increase
> in the Standard Day Single price to offset the loss from those no
> longer buying SDRs, a single should not be available at 50% of the
> price of all current return tickets.
>


Consider Davenport - Manchester (approx. 7 miles):

Single before 9:30 = 2.40
Single after 9:30 = 2.30

Day Return, out before 9:30 = 4.40
Day Return, after 9:30 (no evening restriction): 2.40
Evening return, out between 18:30 and 21:00 : 1.20

(Greater Manchester Rail Day Ranger for all trains in the area
after 9:30 = 3.80, after 18:30 = 1.90)

How (roughly) would you envisage replacing these under your
system without increasing the price of an off-peak
return journey?

I note that you are suggesting evening peak restrictions:
IMO this would be a very bad thing for many users returning
from shopping, matinee performances, etc. and lead to
even more desertion to buses. (Stagecoach Dayrider =
3.00 at any time, any bus in South Manchester.)

Charlie
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